Voyage: Why are some files different?

wellesradio · 03-28-2015, 11:32 PM

Ok, so I had a Kindle Touch a couple of years ago and I went through the whole rigmarolle, adding book covers to side loaded books and what not. I lost that machine a year ago and recently purchased the Voyage and it starts all over again. I don't understand: why do some MOBI files show up in cover view on my device WITH covers and others don't? I've tried to convert to AZW3 and MOBI and it just seems that the covers don't show. What's more some sideloaded books appear as books and some appear as Personal Documents.

What is the fix for all this? I've searched this and other forums to no avail (at least not with up to date info regarding the Voyage). I have Calibre 2.22 on Windows. Which file format works best for epub conversions on the Voyage to get rid of, if not the personal tag, at least include the covers?

FizzyWater · 03-28-2015, 11:35 PM

I don't have an answer for covers showing or not, but in the Calibre conversion window under "Mobi output" you can select "PDOC" (which is the current default value when I bring it up). If I remember correctly, leaving it blank tells your reader to treat it as a book.

eschwartz · 03-29-2015, 02:21 AM

Pretty much -- but do note that you must select all books and click Edit Metadata, then check "Remove stored conversion settings for selected books" -- otherwise calibre will use the stale values for any previously-converted books.

Regarding covers, they will not appear except for PDOCs, as "Books" must get their covers from Amazon's servers. calibre works around this by sideloading the cover thumbnails itself, which requires you use calibre to do the sideloading.

FizzyWater · 03-29-2015, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Regarding covers, they will not appear except for PDOCs, as "Books" must get their covers from Amazon's servers. calibre works around this by sideloading the cover thumbnails itself, which requires you use calibre to do the sideloading.

Learned something new today. Gracias.

shalym · 03-29-2015, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Pretty much -- but do note that you must select all books and click Edit Metadata, then check "Remove stored conversion settings for selected books" -- otherwise calibre will use the stale values for any previously-converted books.

Regarding covers, they will not appear except for PDOCs, as "Books" must get their covers from Amazon's servers. calibre works around this by sideloading the cover thumbnails itself, which requires you use calibre to do the sideloading.

So does that mean that for sideloaded documents they can either show as books or have a cover, but not both?

Shari

eschwartz · 03-29-2015, 12:11 PM

Yes... unless you use calibre, in which case they can have both. Since calibre places all the files the Kindle expects.

In fact, calibre has a FAQ entry about this, targeted mainly towards smartphone/tablet users (where the workaround doesn't work): http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq....droid-ipad-etc

wellesradio · 03-31-2015, 02:47 AM

Funny, "PDOC" isn't the default when I look at the MOBI Output window. In fact, it's blank. Oddly enough, the particular Epub (converted to a MOBI) I want to sideload doesn't appear anywhere in my Kindle when it's unplugged from my PC, though Calibre claims it's in there.

BZee2 · 04-01-2015, 05:47 AM

Maybe the same problem I had:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BZee2

Calibre converts the docx document to .mobi, sends it to the Paperwhite (via USB), says it is on the device but the document does not show on the Paperwhite. If I have Calibre convert the same docx to azw3 and send it to the Paperwhite, it shows. I have other mobi files on the Paperwhite that do show. Any ideas what is happening?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

The MOBI file you attached works in both Kindle Previewer and shows up on my Kindle PaperWhite.

Your problems are almost certainly caused by some MOBI file on the device that is causing the kindle indexer to crash. All files that the indexer would have gotten to after the bad file will therefore not show up. Presumably, the Kindle indexes azw3 files separately/before MOBI files.

Reset your kindle or delete everything from it manually and you should be fine.

I reset my Kindle and now all the MOBI books show up.

03-28-2015, 11:32 PM	#1
wellesradio Member Posts: 23 Karma: 13884 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: apple ipad (3rd generation)	Voyage: Why are some files different? Ok, so I had a Kindle Touch a couple of years ago and I went through the whole rigmarolle, adding book covers to side loaded books and what not. I lost that machine a year ago and recently purchased the Voyage and it starts all over again. I don't understand: why do some MOBI files show up in cover view on my device WITH covers and others don't? I've tried to convert to AZW3 and MOBI and it just seems that the covers don't show. What's more some sideloaded books appear as books and some appear as Personal Documents. What is the fix for all this? I've searched this and other forums to no avail (at least not with up to date info regarding the Voyage). I have Calibre 2.22 on Windows. Which file format works best for epub conversions on the Voyage to get rid of, if not the personal tag, at least include the covers?

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03-28-2015, 11:35 PM	#2
FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	I don't have an answer for covers showing or not, but in the Calibre conversion window under "Mobi output" you can select "PDOC" (which is the current default value when I bring it up). If I remember correctly, leaving it blank tells your reader to treat it as a book.

03-29-2015, 02:21 AM	#3
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Pretty much -- but do note that you must select all books and click Edit Metadata, then check "Remove stored conversion settings for selected books" -- otherwise calibre will use the stale values for any previously-converted books. Regarding covers, they will not appear except for PDOCs, as "Books" must get their covers from Amazon's servers. calibre works around this by sideloading the cover thumbnails itself, which requires you use calibre to do the sideloading.

03-29-2015, 12:11 PM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Yes... unless you use calibre, in which case they can have both. Since calibre places all the files the Kindle expects. In fact, calibre has a FAQ entry about this, targeted mainly towards smartphone/tablet users (where the workaround doesn't work): http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/faq....droid-ipad-etc

03-31-2015, 02:47 AM	#7
wellesradio Member Posts: 23 Karma: 13884 Join Date: Jan 2014 Device: apple ipad (3rd generation)	Funny, "PDOC" isn't the default when I look at the MOBI Output window. In fact, it's blank. Oddly enough, the particular Epub (converted to a MOBI) I want to sideload doesn't appear anywhere in my Kindle when it's unplugged from my PC, though Calibre claims it's in there.

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