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09-02-2011, 07:22 PM | #47 |
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I don't see how Amazon can price this at $250, unless they are supply contained before Christmas and so marking up the price. The Nook Color is $250, but it is more than a year old. My guess is that the Nook Color 2, likely out before Christmas, will be closer to $200. The Lenovo (Lenovo 7" Android Gingerbread 8GB $200 16GB $250) will be $200 for more hardware (GPS, Camera), and this includes a mark-up for retailer profit that Amazon does not incur.
On the other hand, an included Prime membership is a $79 "value" if you need it. |
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09-02-2011, 07:24 PM | #48 | |
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The iPad and the Agency pricing deal it forced was the first blow. A pretty major one. Thanks to pricing being the same, there is basically no reason to ever buy an e-book from Amazon any more (other than it being Amazon). Amazon hasn't done anything to fight back. As I said, this move clearly shows they aren't even going to try, and just fight with B&N over Apple's scraps. Indeed, all Amazon seems to be doing lately is reacting to moves other companies are making. Apple walloped them with the iPad, and B&N outflanked them with the Nook Color. Yes, but for the most part, people are underwhelmed. A severely gimped and underpowered 7" tablet for the same price as a Nook Color isn't going to turn many heads, unless they are hardcore Amazon fans. Especially if the full sized one costs as much as an iPad and is much weaker... Last edited by JeremyR; 09-02-2011 at 07:28 PM. |
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09-02-2011, 07:33 PM | #49 | |
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Suggesting the Canadian government is offering "incentives" to sell books only through Chapters is just downright bizarre. The publishing crowd in Canada is heavily influenced and lobbied by the independents and Chapters is quite unliked by that crowd. In any case, no incentives to foreign publishers made by the Canadian government to sell only through Chapters would survive public scrutiny ... and you can bet you handcrafted bookmarks any such arrangement would be made public almost instantly. |
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09-02-2011, 07:34 PM | #50 | |
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Also, Apple has all but shown they want out of the content business save maybe music as it's pretty established. What they seem to want is to let everyone provide content to the consumer via iTunes store and get their "protection" fee. Apple wants all the profit with none of the overhead in maintaining the content licencing. I don't have a link but there were a couple articles I've read over the past month which made some solid observations that Apple is indeed inching away from actually providing the content, preferring instead to let others carry the water. Apple is moving to making themselves just a conduit for content. Time will tell though and I don't see Apple fading away nor do I see Amazon doing the same. Both seem to be trying for the same customers but using very different angles of attack. |
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09-02-2011, 07:37 PM | #51 | |
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09-02-2011, 07:40 PM | #52 | |
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By the way, last I checked, the Nook's app store pales in comparison to Amazon's and I don't believe they have the music and video cloud services that the new Kindle will have. Besides, it's not like the $250 price is set in stone. Amazon could still lower that (probably depending on Nook Color pricing). Last edited by ilovejedd; 09-02-2011 at 07:43 PM. |
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09-02-2011, 07:43 PM | #53 | |
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My best guess (and it is only a guess) is that Penguin would rather fight with Amazon over Canadian sales, than over sales to the US. I have noticed that Penguin sales in Canada through Kobo have gotten very expensive--$20 and $21 pricing for books that have been out for several years. |
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09-02-2011, 07:54 PM | #54 | |
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09-02-2011, 09:33 PM | #56 | |
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My guess is that NC2 will have the same price, but better specs, just like the iPad2 in relation to the iPad1. |
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09-02-2011, 09:51 PM | #57 |
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I think one danger for the Amazon tablet is Apple coming out with a Retina-type display for the next ipad, which for me would give a huge edge to the ipad over any other tablet, purely in terms of text readabilit. Of course it already has Amazon book support, Netflix, good email and browser, and all the rest. Smaller tablets are the worst of both worlds for me, heavier than eink devices and too small for easy browsing or double-page text, like on a real book. Having used my free year of student Amazon Prime, I didn't renew because I saw how much unnecessary stuff the free shipping led me to buy, including bulk coffee and cereal that are still sitting in my closet, so free Prime would be a liability for me overall.
The other danger is that Kindle users, including me, might feel they're being treated like second-class citizens as the eink device is virtually ignored, while BN, Kobo, and Sony come out with improved, lighter, devices. |
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Compared with Apple, Amazon is offering a much cheaper tablet that is linked to an ecosystem that is many ways as good as Apple's (and in some ways better ). Its the combination of the great ecosystem and the lower price that Amazon is hoping that will be the big draw. You should understand that Amazon's chief goal here is not just hardware sales: it is using the HARDWARE to facilitate CONTENT sales. If Amazon ends up selling more content as a result of these tablets, Amazon wins |
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09-02-2011, 10:03 PM | #59 | |
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Lots of people start out by buying low end electronic devices, then upgrade over time. |
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