Getting Mobipocket authors to display correctly on Kindle - Page 2

igorsk · 01-16-2008, 05:02 PM

Yes, from Java code it seems Home applet rescans the book list when the content folders are updated.

kovidgoyal · 01-16-2008, 06:05 PM

Which probably means it maintains a disk cache somewhere.

tompe · 01-16-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Which probably means it maintains a disk cache somewhere.

Why do you think that? If it rescans all books when one book is added I would have thought that was evidence for no cache.

kovidgoyal · 01-16-2008, 06:30 PM

I doubt it rescans all books, just the books in the affected folder. It would be pretty silly to rescan all books if you know only one book/folder has changed. Also the reboot issue.

TallMomof2 · 01-16-2008, 09:59 PM

I've been massaging a number of .prc and .mobi files for my Kindle using tompe's mobiperl programs. Using mobi2mobi I've found quite a few files that do not have the EXTH record and you cannot add author names. You think that the title has been changed but once the file is on the Kindle you can see the title has not been changed and the author's name is not there.

My solution has been to redownload the files as .lit when possible and use lit2mobi. The titles are changed and you can add the author because the EXTH record is created when the .lit is converted to .mobi

I'm no programmer but this is what I've observed.

geoelectric · 01-17-2008, 01:24 AM

Well, whatever -they- did, I want the original files stamped so that if I reload them later, I don't have to re-edit.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out their ability to edit metadata is very underdeveloped, even insofar as a cache goes. There's absolutely no way to change metadata on-Kindle, which is unfortunate as a number of free books have very poor filenames.

HarryT · 01-17-2008, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by geoelectric

There's absolutely no way to change metadata on-Kindle, which is unfortunate as a number of free books have very poor filenames.

Tompe's "mobi2mobi" tool will allow you to edit the metadata of Kindle books.

geoelectric · 01-17-2008, 04:41 AM

Well, which is where this started.

I've only run into a couple of books like TallMomof2 mentions, but they certainly are annoying when you find them. The .lit trick's a good one, I'll remember that. Still (and not to look a gift horse in the mouth--they're otherwise awesome) I wish mobi2mobi could add the EXTH header instead of just dealing with what's there.

tompe · 01-17-2008, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by geoelectric

Well, which is where this started.

I've only run into a couple of books like TallMomof2 mentions, but they certainly are annoying when you find them. The .lit trick's a good one, I'll remember that. Still (and not to look a gift horse in the mouth--they're otherwise awesome) I wish mobi2mobi could add the EXTH header instead of just dealing with what's there.

Well it does add extra headers if needed but I just realized a possible bug when setting EXTH header information does not work if there is no EXTH header at all in the file. I will look into that. But that does not explain why the title could not be changed.

geoelectric · 01-17-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

Well it does add extra headers if needed but I just realized a possible bug when setting EXTH header information does not work if there is no EXTH header at all in the file. I will look into that. But that does not explain why the title could not be changed.

I hadn't seen that issue on my side. I was able to change the title of the two EXTH-free books I found.

Tchadwick · 02-11-2008, 10:05 PM

First off I want to say that I love what Baen is doing and I will patronize them both buying EBooks and paper.

I went to the Baen Free Library.
I downloaded several books, from some of my favorite authors.
I uploaded them to my Kindle (which I do LOVE) and I can read them.
The problem was addressed but I don’t understand or it seemed ambiguous to me.

When I go to my home page of my Kindle (which I do LOVE) I see the title of the book. I can open the book and read it, but the author does not appear as the ones do that I bought from Amazon. Will I have this issue from the other free book places (freedbook.com) and is it the same fix?

Thanks

Terry

lovebeta · 02-11-2008, 10:42 PM

The only free site that has proper mobi (i.e. author etc metadata) format is feedbook.com.

wallcraft · 02-11-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchadwick

When I go to my home page of my Kindle (which I do LOVE) I see the title of the book. I can open the book and read it, but the author does not appear as the ones do that I bought from Amazon. Will I have this issue from the other free book places (freedbook.com) and is it the same fix?

There are two MOBI formats, the older one does not include the author as metadata and so this does not appear on the Kindle's home page. The fix is to use mobi2mobi to add an author, see PRC to MOBI.

Most free and multi-format sites use the older MOBI format, but feedbooks uses the new format and so the author should get listed. I think Baen will be (or already is) using the new format for new e-books.

HarryT · 02-12-2008, 02:10 AM

Baen have been using the "proper" Mobi format for new eBooks for a couple of months now. They don't appear, however, to be rebuilding older books for the newer format; when an older book reappears in a new "Webscriptions" package it's still in the old format.

HarryT · 02-12-2008, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovebeta

The only free site that has proper mobi (i.e. author etc metadata) format is feedbook.com.

Ahem! What about THIS site?

02-11-2008, 10:05 PM	#26
Tchadwick Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Kindle	displaying authors First off I want to say that I love what Baen is doing and I will patronize them both buying EBooks and paper. I went to the Baen Free Library. I downloaded several books, from some of my favorite authors. I uploaded them to my Kindle (which I do LOVE) and I can read them. The problem was addressed but I don’t understand or it seemed ambiguous to me. When I go to my home page of my Kindle (which I do LOVE) I see the title of the book. I can open the book and read it, but the author does not appear as the ones do that I bought from Amazon. Will I have this issue from the other free book places (freedbook.com) and is it the same fix? Thanks Terry

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01-16-2008, 05:02 PM	#16
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Yes, from Java code it seems Home applet rescans the book list when the content folders are updated.

01-16-2008, 06:05 PM	#17
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,826 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Which probably means it maintains a disk cache somewhere.

01-16-2008, 06:30 PM	#19
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,826 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I doubt it rescans all books, just the books in the affected folder. It would be pretty silly to rescan all books if you know only one book/folder has changed. Also the reboot issue.

01-16-2008, 09:59 PM	#20
TallMomof2 Kindlephilia Posts: 2,017 Karma: 1139255 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Snowpacolypse 2010 Device: Too many to count	I've been massaging a number of .prc and .mobi files for my Kindle using tompe's mobiperl programs. Using mobi2mobi I've found quite a few files that do not have the EXTH record and you cannot add author names. You think that the title has been changed but once the file is on the Kindle you can see the title has not been changed and the author's name is not there. My solution has been to redownload the files as .lit when possible and use lit2mobi. The titles are changed and you can add the author because the EXTH record is created when the .lit is converted to .mobi I'm no programmer but this is what I've observed.

01-17-2008, 01:24 AM	#21
geoelectric Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Kindle	Well, whatever -they- did, I want the original files stamped so that if I reload them later, I don't have to re-edit. I wouldn't be surprised to find out their ability to edit metadata is very underdeveloped, even insofar as a cache goes. There's absolutely no way to change metadata on-Kindle, which is unfortunate as a number of free books have very poor filenames.

01-17-2008, 04:41 AM	#23
geoelectric Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Kindle	Well, which is where this started. I've only run into a couple of books like TallMomof2 mentions, but they certainly are annoying when you find them. The .lit trick's a good one, I'll remember that. Still (and not to look a gift horse in the mouth--they're otherwise awesome) I wish mobi2mobi could add the EXTH header instead of just dealing with what's there.

02-11-2008, 10:42 PM	#27
lovebeta Groupie Posts: 176 Karma: 406 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle 2, Amazon Kindle, Sony PRS-505	The only free site that has proper mobi (i.e. author etc metadata) format is feedbook.com.

02-12-2008, 02:10 AM	#29
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Baen have been using the "proper" Mobi format for new eBooks for a couple of months now. They don't appear, however, to be rebuilding older books for the newer format; when an older book reappears in a new "Webscriptions" package it's still in the old format.