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Old 05-03-2010, 04:41 PM   #31
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I really like templating like that. I would probably have some element of the image change, though. (Kind of like J.A. Konrath has a different drink on the cover of each book.)

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Old 05-03-2010, 05:02 PM   #32
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I really like templating like that. I would probably have some element of the image change, though. (Kind of like J.A. Konrath has a different drink on the cover of each book.)

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That's definitely what should be done, but these are just roughs to show how with no money you can put something together that looks halfway decent.
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:39 PM   #33
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That's definitely what should be done, but these are just roughs to show how with no money you can put something together that looks halfway decent.
I think they look great!

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Old 05-03-2010, 11:34 PM   #34
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That's definitely what should be done, but these are just roughs to show how with no money you can put something together that looks halfway decent.
Well, I wasn't criticizing - those are great.

I'm thinking about a couple of things I may put up myself that are more series oriented. One is a cozy mystery western series which could use something iconic for the covers. The other series is going to be an old-style serial with mystery and thrills and giant carnivorous roly poly bugs. Both of these, if I choose to go the indie route with them, could use a cover scheme like yours.

Although I guess I will do a template for my Wife of Freedom book, which has a sequel. (Actually, I think it has two.)



I'd probably keep the same typography, and the sidebar, but change the image to another classic painting from the period, and change the colors to suit. My only problem is that I have not found another figurative painting that fits the story. There are some decent ones with locations, however.

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Old 05-08-2010, 02:02 AM   #35
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When I did my POD version of Tulagi Hotel, I used istockphoto.com. It had two images I really liked, and photoshopping was easy. The images set me back 13 euros each.

However, when Diiarts published Tulagi Hotel, I asked my friend who has designed books before to do me a cover, and it made a world of difference. Mind you, he is available for freelancing, so PM me for his contact info.

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Old 06-19-2010, 07:00 PM   #36
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I've completely redone my covers for MY GUN HAS BULLETS, DEAD SPACE, and MAN WITH THE IRON ON BADGE to make them look more professional and for "brand" consistency.

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MY GUN HAS BULLETS and DEAD SPACE share the gun/bullet hole motif because they feature the same hero and the same comedic tone. This is the most professional, and the best, MAN WITH THE IRON ON BADGE cover yet. I think I've finally got that one right.

I am confident, based on past experience, that I will see my sales go up as a result of the cleaner, simpler, more professional covers and the "branded" look that's consistent with the previous covers that Carl Graves designed for me.
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Old 06-19-2010, 09:14 PM   #37
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I love your new covers. I love the evolution and the gal with the gun. Ahhh.

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Old 07-16-2010, 12:42 AM   #38
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I was right...sales went up with the new covers. So I am now updating the cover for my bestselling title, THE WALK, though part of me thinks I shouldn't mess with success.

That said, I'm not tossing the original, but I'm doing an "updated" version of the same concept rather than trying something entirely new, and I can always switch back if there's a dip in sales as a result.
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:17 PM   #39
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Lee

Your new covers are perfect for the genre and tone, and before I joined these forums, I browsed through amazon and clicked on "My Gun Has Bullets" while on a random browse. Proof that a cover will get a person to go one step further and check out your description.

I now must go back and rethink my cover .... lol ! (Not the image, but how I have the font, because i believe my title and name get lost when reduced to 80px.)

Thank you for sharing this info!
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another cover change

Today I went from this




to this



I'll just keep doing it until I get it right. Although I liked the knotty pine a good deal and the book takes place in the mountains, maybe it was just too...um too.

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Great thread Lee, thanks for posting the examples. Very useful information.
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Old 07-19-2010, 08:24 PM   #42
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This thread is fascinating to me, since I'm looking at it as a reader and not as a writer.

I admit, when I was reading p-books, the cover was almost always what drew me in. A good example of that is the Janet Evanovich series -- you can almost always just scan a shelf and pick out her books because the colors and graphics pop, and all the books in the series have a similar cover/layout. When I was trying to finish up reading the series, I used to go to the thrift store and just let my eyes drift over the shelves until I saw one of those distinctive colors. But then again, would my buying books from a thrift store actually help an author in any way? Hmmm.

Since I started buying e-books, though, the cover is rarely any part of my decision to buy a book. More often I'll buy a book based on someone's recommendation here, or I'll scan the bestseller lists and read a few reviews on Amazon. I'm pretty sure I would have never bought any of the Bujold books based on the cover art. Same with the Mercy Thompson series by Patricia Briggs -- the covers don't reflect my interpretation of the books, but I read them based on some reviews from here and loved them.

I'll hedge a little bit here and say that maybe on occasion a cover on an e-book will draw me in, but on the other hand a bad cover won't keep me from reading something that I'm interested in reading. After all, with an e-book you never even have to see the cover if you don't want to, and when you're reading in public nobody else sees it either.

Interesting topic.
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Old 07-23-2010, 01:02 AM   #43
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You'd think a cover wouldn't matter on an e-book. But I have noticed a definite -- and STRONG -- correlation between my covers and my sales. Joe has, too. I guess people still tell a book by it's cover, even when a book is digital!

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Great thread! I was talking to my OH this morning, idly speculating on what cover design I might end up with if/when my work-in-progress sells, and hoping I get anything like as nice a cover as the UK editions of The Lies of Locke Lamora and The Blade Itself. Neither of those would work too well as ebook covers, IMHO, as they are too complex and subtle - I wonder, do e-editions of books recently published on dead trees keep the cover, or do they get a redesign?

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Hiya, Heikki! Long time no see! I remember Tulagi Hotel from my time on authonomy - IIRC I thought it was rather good, albeit a long way off my usual beaten track of SF&F. I see Matthew published Pistols... through diiarts as well - do they have a deal with authonomy? (I've been ignoring the marketing emails, since my book isn't finished yet and I want to exhaust the trad route first.)

Oops, almost forgot to mention - I'm Anne Lyle. I joined this site a while back, when I was still mainly using my old email account name as a forum username. You may recall a certain Elizabethan rogue and his money problems...

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You'd think a cover wouldn't matter on an e-book. But I have noticed a definite -- and STRONG -- correlation between my covers and my sales. Joe has, too. I guess people still tell a book by it's cover, even when a book is digital!

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When you look at how ebooks are presented online, the strong correlation makes sense. Most of the time it's a long list of books the potential reader can scroll down through, or a grid format, where user is presented with an square array of covers, sometimes without any accompanying text at all.

In this situation, it's only natural that their eye is drawn to the covers that stand out. And as you've pointed out, 'this situation' means a small iconic image, and designing around that helps a cover stand out.

And putting half-naked women on your covers helps too. I can vouch for that.
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