RUMOR: Kindle coming to the UK next week - Page 2

JSWolf · 10-01-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by queentess

You're upset they won't let you publish (understandable), but you somehow associate this with greed? They can't make money off of you if they're not publishing your books, so I don't see how this is a logical conclusion. Just sounds like you're upset for not getting a piece of the delicious Amazon pie.

I disagree. I think it's wanting to get the books out to as many places so peoiple will be able to buy them. Amazon is just one of these paces.

neilmarr · 10-01-2009, 11:40 AM

Hya, Jon and Queentess:

With the best will in the world, ghere's something vital you're missing here ... Amazon and Sony are NOT publishers. They are merely manufacturers and retailers. Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit. In some cases, this may be excused by international copyright issues, in most it's purely a matter of establishing a monopoly. Neither of these comanies has the slightest say in what a publisher produces -- just in whether or not its in their newly-discovered interests (with devices tied to private bookstores) to offer it for sale in a free marketplace.

Hoots. Neil

JSWolf · 10-01-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by neilmarr

Hya, Jon and Queentess:

With the best will in the world, ghere's something vital you're missing here ... Amazon and Sony are NOT publishers. They are merely manufacturers and retailers. Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit. In some cases, this may be excused by international copyright issues, in most it's purely a matter of establishing a monopoly. Neither of these comanies has the slightest say in what a publisher produces -- just in whether or not its in their newly-discovered interests (with devices tied to private bookstores) to offer it for sale in a free marketplace.

Hoots. Neil

Thing is, if Sony allows your books to be at their shop, it'll mean yet another avenue of possible revenue.

daffy4u · 10-01-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Xerxes

I think that'll happen regardless. Sony and Kindle maybe the biggest mainstream wise, but they seem content with coming out with product and staying the same for years as opposed to the "little" guys who seem to being evolving and changing every time you look around.

The Kindle has been out for less than 2 years, so I'm not sure how you came up with "staying the same for years" comment.

Hobohodou · 10-03-2009, 06:08 PM

I really hope this is true, it'd be great to see the kindle released in the UK

...even if it's just to try it out >D

Mike L · 10-05-2009, 07:29 AM

What would be really good is if they let me move the registration of my existing Kindle from Amazon US to Amazon UK. Somehow I doubt it.

EowynCarter · 10-05-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike L

What would be really good is if they let me move the registration of my existing Kindle from Amazon US to Amazon UK. Somehow I doubt it.

Yeah, you're not supposed to have a kindle outside US.

Mike L · 10-05-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EowynCarter

you're not supposed to have a kindle outside US.

Says who?

It's true that Amazon won't supply a Kindle to anyone outside the US, but there's no law against buying one in the US and taking it out of the country.

DawnFalcon · 10-05-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by neilmarr

Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit.

There's a difference, though. You can buy from Sony with needing a PRS reader. Whereare, with Amazon...

daffy4u · 10-05-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

There's a difference, though. You can buy from Sony with needing a PRS reader. Whereare, with Amazon...

You can use an iPhone or an iPod Touch!

DawnFalcon · 10-05-2009, 05:10 PM

Now now, let's not get me into a rant on Apple.

Terisa de morgan · 10-05-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Now now, let's not get me into a rant on Apple.

I agree but I agree, too, that you can buy with an iphone.

fugazied · 10-05-2009, 06:02 PM

Well hopefully soon, Europe is the next logical step, then Australia and other smaller countries.

It's indicative of how backwards publishers are, Amazon has to go through their licensing minefield to get it into Europe DESPITE the fact publishers would make more money from it.

Kali Yuga · 10-05-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazied

It's indicative of how backwards publishers are, Amazon has to go through their licensing minefield to get it into Europe DESPITE the fact publishers would make more money from it.

Pretty much any mass market art form (e.g. music, films etc) has to deal with the same international rights issues. The world is hardly so financially, culturally and politically unified that the issues can dissolve overnight.

My guess is the issue is probably not the publishers, but securing the wireless network deals, at a price Amazon is willing to pay.

JSWolf · 10-05-2009, 08:58 PM

I would think if Amazon was to launch the Kindle in the UK, they'd have had a press release by now. So we can take this rumor as untrue.

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10-01-2009, 11:40 AM	#17
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,216 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Hya, Jon and Queentess: With the best will in the world, ghere's something vital you're missing here ... Amazon and Sony are *NOT* publishers. They are merely manufacturers and retailers. Each in its own way limits availability of legitimately published books so that store and device are almost a closed circuit. In some cases, this may be excused by international copyright issues, in most it's purely a matter of establishing a monopoly. Neither of these comanies has the slightest say in what a publisher produces -- just in whether or not its in their newly-discovered interests (with devices tied to private bookstores) to offer it for sale in a free marketplace. Hoots. Neil

10-03-2009, 06:08 PM	#20
Hobohodou not such a "badguy" =/ Posts: 27 Karma: 260 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Edinburgh - scotland Device: Cybook Gen3/Bebook + Zune HD	I really hope this is true, it'd be great to see the kindle released in the UK ...even if it's just to try it out >D

10-05-2009, 07:29 AM	#21
Mike L Wizard Posts: 1,479 Karma: 3846231 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Device: Kindle 3, Samsung Galaxy	What would be really good is if they let me move the registration of my existing Kindle from Amazon US to Amazon UK. Somehow I doubt it.

10-05-2009, 05:10 PM	#26
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	Now now, let's not get me into a rant on Apple.

10-05-2009, 06:02 PM	#28
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	Well hopefully soon, Europe is the next logical step, then Australia and other smaller countries. It's indicative of how backwards publishers are, Amazon has to go through their licensing minefield to get it into Europe DESPITE the fact publishers would make more money from it.

10-05-2009, 08:58 PM	#30
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,866 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I would think if Amazon was to launch the Kindle in the UK, they'd have had a press release by now. So we can take this rumor as untrue.

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