[GUI Plugin] Count Pages

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by rpgmaker

I do want to ask, is there a way to count pages automatically after adding a book to the library?

You mean that the page counting is done upon adding the book, so you don't have to start and acknowledge the count yourself?

As far as I know, it's not possible. If it is, I don't know how.

[rpgmaker]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

You mean that the page counting is done upon adding the book, so you don't have to start and acknowledge the count it yourself?

Acknowledge? Maybe something got lost in translation but I'm not asking for this to avoid the page count obviously (why would I install a page count plugin then?), it is to save the step of executing the plugin manually for each new book I add to my library.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by rpgmaker

Acknowledge? Maybe something got lost in translation but I'm not asking for this to avoid the page count obviously (why would I install a page count plugin then?), it is to save the step of executing the plugin manually for each new book I add to my library.

Any PI that prepares changes in background to the DB requires the user to Acknowledge they are ready to have the change posted. These PI typically need to grind for a bit, so you are allowed to do other work with the Library

[Katsunami]

Originally Posted by rpgmaker

Acknowledge? Maybe something got lost in translation but I'm not asking for this to avoid the page count obviously (why would I install a page count plugin then?), it is to save the step of executing the plugin manually for each new book I add to my library.

What theducks says above; after you start Page Count, it takes some time. When it is done, it asks you to acknowledge (or cancel) the changes it wants to make. In this case, that change is adding the page count to the database.

Originally Posted by rpgmaker

Acknowledge? Maybe something got lost in translation but I'm not asking for this to avoid the page count obviously (why would I install a page count plugin then?), it is to save the step of executing the plugin manually for each new book I add to my library.

That is what I meant as well. AFAIK, you can't run the plugin and apply the changes automatically when ebooks are added to the library. You will have to start the plugin yourself and then apply the changes when it asks to do so.

[BetterRed]

@rpgmaker - you can't auto execute PIs when a book is added, but you can turn off the notification messages for Count Pages, viz :



BR

[rpgmaker]

Originally Posted by Katsunami

What theducks says above; after you start Page Count, it takes some time. When it is done, it asks you to acknowledge (or cancel) the changes it wants to make. In this case, that change is adding the page count to the database.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@rpgmaker - you can't auto execute PIs when a book is added, but you can turn off the notification messages for Count Pages.

I'm aware of this. In fact, you can tell the plugin to make the changes without asking for your confirmation. What I wanted to know was if it was possible to have the plugin execute automatically after adding a new book. It's ok though, not that much of a problem to run the plugin manually after adding a book

Great plugin. Thumbs up to the author!

[rpgmaker]

Can anyone tell me what is the calculus/formula behind the page number? It'd be good to have it in the first post.

[BetterRed]

@rpgmaker - you could look at the code, just unpack the plugin zip somewhere, I think the algos are in statistics.py. The PI author, Kiwidude, isn't very active at the moment, but his code pretty easy to read with generous comments,

BR

[rpgmaker]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@rpgmaker - you could look at the code, just unpack the plugin zip somewhere, I think the algos are in statistics.py. The PI author, Kiwidude, isn't very active at the moment, but his code pretty easy to read with generous comments,

BR

Thanks for pointing out the file.

The page count for epubs, in case anyone is wondering:
From what I understood the script first counts the lines (comment in script: "A line is either a paragraph starting or every 70 characters in a paragraph."). For the accurate count this number is then divided by 31 (which is the usual number of lines in a page of a paperback, I assume). After this, from script: "we could still have a really weird document and massively understate. As a backstop count the characters using the "fast count" algorithm and use that number instead". The fast count counts the characters in the entire document, divides this number by 2400 and a 1 is added to the result. The biggest of the two counts is used as the resulting page count.

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by rpgmaker

Thanks for pointing out the file.

The page count for epubs, in case anyone is wondering:
From what I understood the script first counts the lines (comment in script: "A line is either a paragraph starting or every 70 characters in a paragraph."). For the accurate count this number is then divided by 31 (which is the usual number of lines in a page of a paperback, I assume). After this, from script: "we could still have a really weird document and massively understate. As a backstop count the characters using the "fast count" algorithm and use that number instead". The fast count counts the characters in the entire document, divides this number by 2400 and a 1 is added to the result. The biggest of the two counts is used as the resulting page count.

Don't forget there are three other algorithms available. Personally, I use the ADE method. That matches what any device that uses the RMSDK will show for an epub.

[rpgmaker]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Don't forget there are three other algorithms available. Personally, I use the ADE method. That matches what any device that uses the RMSDK will show for an epub.

Thanks for pointing it out, it's what I tried to clarify at the beginning of my comment but ended up muddling it instead

What I described was the accurate count method. There are others for PDF, Adobe, etc.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Don't forget there are three other algorithms available. Personally, I use the ADE method. That matches what any device that uses the RMSDK will show for an epub.

Maybe that is because we use RMSDK equipped device ?

BTW those number seem to matchup with the numbers seen on the device

[JSWolf]

I have found some bugs in count pages that can cause it to count two words as one word.

except…if
except—if
except–if

All of those cases cause two words to be counted as one. I do hope someone is available to fix this. Thanks.

[PeterT]

Is it that critical that the word count be precise?

[rpgmaker]

Originally Posted by PeterT

Is it that critical that the word count be precise?

Why would you say this? If it's a bug let's be thankful that someone did the work to find it and then cared enough to report it. In the end that makes the plugin more accurate and helpful to everyone.