full new new yorker

ASetsuko · 12-17-2010, 08:31 PM

hi, i am a total layperson so it's been hard for me to follow the directions for recipes, and i'd very much appreciate some help. i've been considering subscribing to the new yorker, but don't want to unless i can read it on my ereader (i have a new sony prs-650).

i noticed in calibre the ny review of books has two options, and one allows you to plug in your subscription info, whereas the new yorker option only has the version available to non-subscribers on their website. so, before i ask for advice on the recipe technicalities, i'd like to know whether or not the correct recipe would enable me access the full subscription version.

i'm less concerned about graphics, cartoons etc. i just want to be able to read the full text of all the articles.

thanks so much to whoever can answer this!

kovidgoyal · 12-17-2010, 08:32 PM

why dont you try a new yorker download (since it doesn't require account info) and see if you're happy with what you get.

ASetsuko · 12-17-2010, 10:14 PM

thanks for replying so quickly! unfortunately i have tried the new yorker download and unfortunately the stuff available sans subscription tends to exclude the collection of nonfiction feature articles that i enjoy reading. is that definitely my only option? there is no way to make it like the new york review of books, where you can plug in your subscription info?

kovidgoyal · 12-17-2010, 10:45 PM

there may well be, but in order to answer your question, you will need to provide the login details so someone can try to improve the recipe.

kiklop74 · 12-18-2010, 07:29 PM

It is not possible to create recipe for full new yorker since they do not publish all articles on their website. The only way to access them is to use digital edition which is e-paper flash based like.

Websterny · 04-06-2011, 10:05 AM

I'm also looking for the full New Yorker on my device. kiklop74, many thanks for contributing ... But any chance you could take a second to be less cryptic? What does "use digital edition which is e-paper flash based like" mean??? Is "digital edition" a site, a device, a software package, a subscription, a philosophy, a religion ... As a practical matter, how does "digital edition" relate to the problem of getting the New Yorker content on the e-reader?

thanks!

kiklop74 · 04-06-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Websterny

But any chance you could take a second to be less cryptic? What does "use digital edition which is e-paper flash based like" mean??? Is "digital edition" a site, a device, a software package, a subscription, a philosophy, a religion ... As a practical matter, how does "digital edition" relate to the problem of getting the New Yorker content on the e-reader?

thanks!

Calibre obtains content for all recipes by "scraping" web pages. That means it loads web pages with articles and removes all extra parts of the page and keeps the text. That process can be performed ONLY on HTML pages - which means where content is in text format.

If you have a content displayed through use of flash - which is the case of new yorker e-paper edition than we can not extract the text since it is displayed in the page as image.

I mentioned digital e-paper edition since it contains all articles but they can not be treated with calibre. Standard New Yorker web site does not contain all of the articles in HTML format.

Starson17 · 04-06-2011, 11:24 AM

Kiklop knows this, but for the record:

Since the site itself is HTML, it's sometimes possible to grab flash-based images from a site. I wrote some recipes for flash-based photo-album sites at the last Winter Olympics. I just scraped image links from the flash-code (well actually, I scraped an intermediate link and scraped links from that page), then grabbed the images and displayed those. I was even able to grab image labels and comments for each.

That worked great for sports photos, but it isn't likely to be worthwhile for images of text.

kiklop74 · 04-06-2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starson17

Kiklop knows this, but for the record:

Since the site itself is HTML, it's sometimes possible to grab flash-based images from a site. I wrote some recipes for flash-based photo-album sites at the last Winter Olympics. I just scraped image links from the flash-code (well actually, I scraped an intermediate link and scraped links from that page), then grabbed the images and displayed those. I was even able to grab image labels and comments for each.

That worked great for sports photos, but it isn't likely to be worthwhile for images of text.

It is perhaps possible to get first image but you will end up with non scalable image that will be unreadable on the device, unless you suggest we start using OCR. Where would that end? People just need to realize that there are things that are not possible with current version of calibre. If you do not like this you will just have to get the paper edition or read e-paper edition on your computer.

Starson17 · 04-06-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starson17

That worked great for sports photos, but it isn't likely to be worthwhile for images of text.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiklop74

It is perhaps possible to get first image but you will end up with non scalable image that will be unreadable on the device

It looks to me like we are in complete agreement.

kiklop74 · 04-06-2011, 04:29 PM

We are but I just wanted to avoid another user question in this thread.

Starson17 · 04-08-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiklop74

We are but I just wanted to avoid another user question in this thread.

I was trying to make sure that anyone else who sees this thread knows that flash is not a total bar to a useful recipe. If someone wants to grab photos, it may be easy. If they are willing to live with images of text, that's up to them. It's not something that should be a builtin, but for those who read pdfs or have large tablets, they might be interested in writing their own such recipe.

kiklop74 · 04-08-2011, 01:53 PM

Sure, but in 99% of cases users generaly expect that somebody else does the work for them.

In any case people who would like to digitally read Full New Yorker should get iPad and The New Yorker app which gives them access to everything.

nhow · 01-24-2012, 04:32 AM

I am a New Yorker print subscriber. They now have a full print version for iPad, Kindle Fire, Nook Tablet and Android. But you need to install the apps on your mobile devices and download the magazine files directly to the device (not to PC or Mac).

BobbyVan · 08-07-2012, 11:29 AM

I notice that the New Yorker just released an app for the iPhone. I'm not sure if this changes anything, but one thing that I've always longed for is a recipe that could fetch the full magazine for digital subscribers (there's a fee today for Kindle editions, regardless of whether one subscribes to the magazine already).

So I'm wondering if the new iPhone app somehow changes the equation. Is it possible to have a recipe fetch the full magazine via the app interface?

Thanks.

12-17-2010, 08:31 PM	#1
ASetsuko Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Sony PRS-650	full new new yorker hi, i am a total layperson so it's been hard for me to follow the directions for recipes, and i'd very much appreciate some help. i've been considering subscribing to the new yorker, but don't want to unless i can read it on my ereader (i have a new sony prs-650). i noticed in calibre the ny review of books has two options, and one allows you to plug in your subscription info, whereas the new yorker option only has the version available to non-subscribers on their website. so, before i ask for advice on the recipe technicalities, i'd like to know whether or not the correct recipe would enable me access the full subscription version. i'm less concerned about graphics, cartoons etc. i just want to be able to read the full text of all the articles. thanks so much to whoever can answer this!

08-07-2012, 11:29 AM	#15
BobbyVan Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 20 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	New Yorker for the iPhone I notice that the New Yorker just released an app for the iPhone. I'm not sure if this changes anything, but one thing that I've always longed for is a recipe that could fetch the full magazine for digital subscribers (there's a fee today for Kindle editions, regardless of whether one subscribes to the magazine already). So I'm wondering if the new iPhone app somehow changes the equation. Is it possible to have a recipe fetch the full magazine via the app interface? Thanks.

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12-17-2010, 08:32 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	why dont you try a new yorker download (since it doesn't require account info) and see if you're happy with what you get.

12-17-2010, 10:14 PM	#3
ASetsuko Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Sony PRS-650	thanks for replying so quickly! unfortunately i have tried the new yorker download and unfortunately the stuff available sans subscription tends to exclude the collection of nonfiction feature articles that i enjoy reading. is that definitely my only option? there is no way to make it like the new york review of books, where you can plug in your subscription info?

12-17-2010, 10:45 PM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	there may well be, but in order to answer your question, you will need to provide the login details so someone can try to improve the recipe.

12-18-2010, 07:29 PM	#5
kiklop74 Guru Posts: 800 Karma: 194644 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Device: Kindle Voyage	It is not possible to create recipe for full new yorker since they do not publish all articles on their website. The only way to access them is to use digital edition which is e-paper flash based like.

04-06-2011, 10:05 AM	#6
Websterny Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kobo Mini	I'm also looking for the full New Yorker on my device. kiklop74, many thanks for contributing ... But any chance you could take a second to be less cryptic? What does "use digital edition which is e-paper flash based like" mean??? Is "digital edition" a site, a device, a software package, a subscription, a philosophy, a religion ... As a practical matter, how does "digital edition" relate to the problem of getting the New Yorker content on the e-reader? thanks!

04-06-2011, 11:24 AM	#8
Starson17 Wizard Posts: 4,004 Karma: 177841 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: WinMo: IPAQ; Android: HTC HD2, Archos 7o; Java:Gravity T	Kiklop knows this, but for the record: Since the site itself is HTML, it's sometimes possible to grab flash-based images from a site. I wrote some recipes for flash-based photo-album sites at the last Winter Olympics. I just scraped image links from the flash-code (well actually, I scraped an intermediate link and scraped links from that page), then grabbed the images and displayed those. I was even able to grab image labels and comments for each. That worked great for sports photos, but it isn't likely to be worthwhile for images of text.

04-06-2011, 04:29 PM	#11
kiklop74 Guru Posts: 800 Karma: 194644 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Device: Kindle Voyage	We are but I just wanted to avoid another user question in this thread.

04-08-2011, 01:53 PM	#13
kiklop74 Guru Posts: 800 Karma: 194644 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Device: Kindle Voyage	Sure, but in 99% of cases users generaly expect that somebody else does the work for them. In any case people who would like to digitally read Full New Yorker should get iPad and The New Yorker app which gives them access to everything.

01-24-2012, 04:32 AM	#14
nhow Member Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle	I am a New Yorker print subscriber. They now have a full print version for iPad, Kindle Fire, Nook Tablet and Android. But you need to install the apps on your mobile devices and download the magazine files directly to the device (not to PC or Mac).