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French court applies Right to be forgotten globally
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11-17-2014, 10:51 AM | #2 |
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What happens in France stays in France.
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11-17-2014, 10:52 AM | #3 |
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Globally? They better have a treaty to back it up with.
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11-17-2014, 11:10 AM | #4 |
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I can see this leading to intellectual borders. The Internet has grown way past what it was originally intended for and I wonder if we will end up with two internets. The academic and the public. People need to take their privacy seriously. If you are stupid enough to do stuff and put it out there electronically you suffer the consequences. Just because the most popular search engine isn't returning a result does not mean that your stupidity is not living its own life out there.
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11-17-2014, 11:26 AM | #5 |
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So it's not enough that governments cover stuff up, now they are mandating that everyone has to cover stuff up?
This "right to be forgotten" sounds like something out of a heavy-handed dystopian novel. Something thought up in Orwell's Ministry of Truth, perhaps? Last edited by ApK; 11-17-2014 at 11:31 AM. |
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11-17-2014, 11:44 AM | #6 |
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The definitions of "public" and "private" are changing--and need to IMO. Even when in my own home, I no longer have any expectation of privacy when I go online and interact publically with the rest of the world. Just as if I'd gone to a public forum in the physical world, I feel I've left the privacy of my own home whenever I engage people in virtual public forums. In order to have privacy, I need to BE private. I accept sole responsibility for guarding (or relinquishing) my privacy. I don't expect anyone to do it for me. Also ... I've discovered that I just don't value, all that much, what others are defining as "privacy" in the digital age. Security? Sure. But if I want "privacy," I'll become a hermit. Both physically and digitally.
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11-17-2014, 02:59 PM | #9 |
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11-17-2014, 03:02 PM | #10 |
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This French ruling is just as bad as this US ruling:
US Judge orders Microsoft to hand over data stored in Ireland I guess borders mean nothing anymore. |
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And the connection is...
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Here it is a matter of information legally accessible in both locations, being marked illegal in one location... and that location (France) trying to make it illegal in the other location (USA). In both cases, we are talking about universal data, and countries trying to control how that gets used in other countries. France tries to stop Google from handing over data via google searches, in the US. Microsoft tries to avoid handing over data to the US Courts, in the US. I am noticing a trend here. (Also, Google is more of a law-abiding corporation than Microsoft is. ) |
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Reaction from some quarters whenever France does something they disagree with.
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Okay, so some people are stupid. I think it is fairly reasonable to penalize France for a stupid move by taking away the thing they are trying to control, mostly to prevent them from controlling it, also because they clearly do not appreciate that particular service. Also, Google as an independent company is perfectly welcome to pull out wherever they feel unwelcome, because they have no requirement to offer their services. Hopefully quicker than they did in China. (I would highly disapprove of the US demanding of Google that they pull out of France. I specifically stated my approval of a suggestion that Google do so of their own volition.) Less reasonable is doing random garbage as a form of demagoguery. |
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11-17-2014, 04:15 PM | #15 |
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I found nothing stupid about that. No different than bumper stickers or buttons and the like, it was (and is) an attention-getting, mild way to show displeasure with, as Groundskeeper Willie put it, those cheese-eating surrender-monkeys.
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