03-01-2012, 10:38 AM | #16 |
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The problem with trademark is that it is used as a loophole around copyright. If the copyright for Steamboat Willie expires, people will be able to freely distribute copies of Steamboat Willie, but due to trademark, they will not be able to make new Mickey Mouse cartoons.
I don't agree with ending trademark at the death of the author. Ulysses Grant wrote his memoirs near the end of his life to care for his family. If his copyright expired at his death, it would been of no value to his family, so he probably wouldn't have written it. Thus, copyright ending at the death of the author would have deprived us of this book. There is a tremendous irony in companies that have made a fortune from the public domain continually pushing to have the copyright period extended. |
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Having life copyright can provide a significant disincentive for an author to publish new works. One wonders whether J.D. Salinger would have spent his last 40-50 years not publishing anything if he had been unable to rely on the royalty checks for Catcher in the Rye? Likewise, knowing that the work can provide income for his family after death can provide an author who is late in life an incentive to write one last book (And an incentive for publishing companies to purchase it). Personally, i wish we could go back to a fixed length copyright. Having something like 25 years fixed would make a lot more sense in my mind. -- Bill |
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the owner of the warehouse keeps the capital generated by the hired work and can pass it down as he sees fit (death taxes withstanding). |
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Ya'll can sarcastically and ironically put down the idea of a perpetual copyright as much as you like but I happen to strongly believe in the writeness of it. As a matter of fact I believe in it so strongly that when last I wrote my congressman I included a demand for perpetual copyright as a rider to my demand to receive my government retirement pay in perpetuity.
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But perpetual copyright doesn't need new laws. Life+70 by itself should suffice for most living authors, if we believe Ray Kurzweil. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...scientist.html |
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03-01-2012, 10:47 AM | #22 | |
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"Scientists" who make claims like this also seem to forget basic thermodynamics. -- Bill |
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Tokamak fusion will always be a hundred years away.
It's an ornithopter. Doesn't mean that inertial confinement or electrostatic confinement fusion reactors might not scale up to make economic sense. (Do remember I said seriously ironic...) |
03-01-2012, 10:52 AM | #24 |
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I'm highly skeptical - at best - of this article, but the problem isn't with thermodynamics, it with the complexity of the system. We could keep a car running forever, barring a catastrophic accident, replacing one part at a time as it wore out. It just ceases to be economical to do so. We just don't know enough about the human body, and while nanotech has great promise, the more grandiose claims are a long way away, if they are even possible.
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03-01-2012, 11:00 AM | #25 | |
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That being said, I acknowledge that there is a purpose for copyrights. Copyrights are necessary because you have to do the work before you can sell it, and because it is too easy for someone else to start reproducing your work once you have made it public. Patents are based upon the same principle: you have to do the work (research and development) before you introduce a product, and it is far too easy for someone else to start reproducing that product once you have made it public. Yet patents only receive 20 years of protection. That is true even though a great patent requires many more man hours to develop, much more talented people to develop it, and resources that are much more sophisticated to undertake the development. All of that means a single great patent will cost much more to develop than hundreds of great books. But, in many respects, authors receive much more protection. Why? |
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I would like to see life + 10 years. But definitely agree that while living, the author should have complete control over his/her work.
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Of course this also ignores the problem of what we do with all the people. The single biggest reason for the exploding population of our planet is the fact that so many of us now live so much longer. Now imagine a world where even limiting births to one child per woman still leads to a soaring population. Wars and famine will almost certainly result... and thermodynamics will again make sure entropy triumphs. Finally of course, sooner or later there will be no available energy left in the Universe... assuming matter isn't ripped apart by the expansion of the Universe, or that it doesn't decay into free floating quarks. True immortality is impossible in this Universe (heaven and hell, if they fit in your belief system as they do mine must exist somewhere else). -- Bill |
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03-01-2012, 11:41 AM | #28 |
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Entropy isn't a problem as long as you have access to energy. Yes, billions or trillions of years from now, there might not be any more available energy (although I can't say for certain what our ancestors of a trillion years might be able to do), but that is an awfully long time. If you want to use a definition of immortality that means living for an infinite number of years, you may do so, but it is a bit of a narrow definition.
If we had immortality, limited only by catastrophic accidents or available energy (if you won't call that immortality, call it what you like) we would have to make major cultural changes. Children would have to be strictly limited to only replacement of those who were killed. We probably wouldn't like such controls, but the alternative would probably be worse. |
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