Page Turn Misfires

ig88 · 09-09-2007, 03:59 PM

Has anybody else noticed that every now and then (say 15%) of the time, that MobiPocket (it may be happening in all apps, but I almost only use MobiPocket lately) decides to turn forward more than one page at a time?

And no, it's not because I held the flip bar down too long, I upped by preferences to an unbearably long time just to see if I could eliminate the issue.

I have also noticed that after turning back to the original page, the pagination has changed a little - for example, the last pragraph on the page I was last reading becomes the second to the last paragraph; or the first paragraph of the next page I hadn't yet read.

Also, when this behavior creeps up, it seems to persist, that is once the erroneous page turn happens, the likely hood of it happening again increases dramatically (say 80%).

dmw · 09-09-2007, 06:49 PM

I've seen this as well, both in mobipocket and ipdf. Exactly as you describe. It's happened so often that I've adopted the habit of checking the page number with every page turn, so I'll know where to go back to when it happens.

thicke · 09-09-2007, 08:48 PM

From the user manual (note the last bullet point):

4.3 Flipbar
• Turn Flipbar to the left to turn a page/screen to reach next
content.
• Turn Flipbar to the right to turn a page/screen to reach
previous content.
• Hold Flipbar to the left or right for 2 seconds to skip 5
pages/screens.

ig88 - I'm not sure if changing the keypress thresh hold will affect this. This is also not what's causing your pagination issue you are having. I just thought someone might find it useful.

Nate the great · 09-09-2007, 11:59 PM

I noticed something similar to this back when I used Mobipocket on my PDA. The page count of the ebook sometimes changed for no reason. It was somewhat odd.

narve · 09-10-2007, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thicke

From the user manual (note the last bullet point):

4.3 Flipbar
• Turn Flipbar to the left to turn a page/screen to reach next
content.
• Turn Flipbar to the right to turn a page/screen to reach
previous content.
• Hold Flipbar to the left or right for 2 seconds to skip 5
pages/screens.

ig88 - I'm not sure if changing the keypress thresh hold will affect this. This is also not what's causing your pagination issue you are having. I just thought someone might find it useful.

Changing the delay doesn't help. In my case, the flipping only misfires when flipping to the right, so I've changed direction in settings and now it works properly again (although I had to get used to left for forward

).
The current idea is that it is hardware error, I believe.

HarryT · 09-10-2007, 09:53 AM

I've only had this happen to me once. I rebooted the iLiad and it went away; hasn't happened since.

Adam B. · 09-10-2007, 10:51 AM

I'm curious as to which way you have your page turn setup? To go to the next page do you use the default "flip left"? Or do you have it changed to flip right?

Try swapping it to see what happens.

Blue · 09-10-2007, 04:31 PM

Hey, I also experience this problem. I use the default settings and am currentely reading a book in ipdf. I has happened about 7 times today (am reading pretty much the entire day

). I first thought it was because of me holding the flip bar a bit to long. I'm not really aware of me using my iliad while reading so it's still possible, but I doubt that now that I read that others are also having this problem.

autophile · 09-10-2007, 10:54 PM

This problem seems to be an issue in 2.10. I had not noticed it in the previous versions, so I think it's something new, perhaps introduced by the improved battery management. What appears to happen is that you flip the flip bar normally, but the operating system appears to hang for a short while. This is apparently treated as a long flip, which results in the 5-page skip we're experiencing.

Just guessing. And I still love my iLiad

--Rob

narve · 09-12-2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autophile

This problem seems to be an issue in 2.10. I had not noticed it in the previous versions, so I think it's something new, perhaps introduced by the improved battery management. What appears to happen is that you flip the flip bar normally, but the operating system appears to hang for a short while. This is apparently treated as a long flip, which results in the 5-page skip we're experiencing.

Just guessing. And I still love my iLiad

--Rob

It is not new in 2.10 for me. I assumed it was a hardware problem, since flipping direction (I now use the non-default right-is-forward) fixed it - the problem is more or less gone now.

yokos · 09-12-2007, 10:13 AM

This is an old known problem. Scotty1024 has started a similar thread in Dec of 2006.
What I said months ago in the other thread is still true. Using the non-default flipping direction solved it on my iLiad.
I assume it is a hardware problem, too.

ElaHuguet · 09-14-2007, 01:31 AM

Mine has had that problem since the beginning (Sept. 06), it seemed to be solved in newer versions... but when it came back from being repaired, the casing was very slightly loose beside the flipbar, and it's doing it again. If I hold the casing firm while flipping, problem solved (but it means a two-handed page turn, which is a bugger).

dmw · 09-14-2007, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yokos

This is an old known problem. ... What I said months ago in the other thread is still true. Using the non-default flipping direction solved it on my iLiad.

That doesn't seem to be the case for me, as I use the non-default flipping direction and still experience the problem. I never made the connection that the flipbar direction might be a problem, but I do remember that it was much worse at some point in the past that may have coincided with my changing of the default flip direction.

nekokami · 09-16-2007, 01:20 PM

I've occasionally seen this problem, but I have not detected any particular pattern. I adjusted my setting for the length of a "long" button press, and that seemed to help a little. I think the "software hang->OS interprets long flip" explanation sounds plausible. There may be more than one cause, however, as I can't really see why left vs. right flip would make any difference in that case.

ig88 · 09-21-2007, 05:33 PM

It DEFINITELY is not because I am holding the bar too long.

It happens so often, and it is such a PITA, that I am very anal to just barely flick the bar, as quickly as possible.

Also, sometimes it happens repeatedly, as I try to go back and forth to get it to finally go the actual next page.

Also, because when this problem arises, the paragraphs always change their pagination (that is, the last paragraph (or part of it) of the last read page changes to the first paragraph of the next unread page) - Because of this change in the flow of text, I would say it is a SOFTWARE problem, related to page reflowing, and not a HARDWARE problem; so I doubt that changing the direction the bar flips would resolve the issue - and I like the direction the way it is and don't want to change it.

It is so prevalent that I have to pay attention to the page number displayed at the bottom every time I turn, so I know if it executed correctly or not. Takes some of the enjoyment out of the reading experience.

09-09-2007, 03:59 PM	#1
ig88 Gadget Guy Posts: 76 Karma: 84 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iLiad - iPhone - OSX	Page Turn Misfires Has anybody else noticed that every now and then (say 15%) of the time, that MobiPocket (it may be happening in all apps, but I almost only use MobiPocket lately) decides to turn forward more than one page at a time? And no, it's not because I held the flip bar down too long, I upped by preferences to an unbearably long time just to see if I could eliminate the issue. I have also noticed that after turning back to the original page, the pagination has changed a little - for example, the last pragraph on the page I was last reading becomes the second to the last paragraph; or the first paragraph of the next page I hadn't yet read. Also, when this behavior creeps up, it seems to persist, that is once the erroneous page turn happens, the likely hood of it happening again increases dramatically (say 80%).

09-09-2007, 08:48 PM	#3
thicke Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Iliad	From the user manual (note the last bullet point): 4.3 Flipbar • Turn Flipbar to the left to turn a page/screen to reach next content. • Turn Flipbar to the right to turn a page/screen to reach previous content. • Hold Flipbar to the left or right for 2 seconds to skip 5 pages/screens. ig88 - I'm not sure if changing the keypress thresh hold will affect this. This is also not what's causing your pagination issue you are having. I just thought someone might find it useful. Last edited by thicke; 09-09-2007 at 08:55 PM.

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09-09-2007, 06:49 PM	#2
dmw Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: iRex Iliad/Palm TX	I've seen this as well, both in mobipocket and ipdf. Exactly as you describe. It's happened so often that I've adopted the habit of checking the page number with every page turn, so I'll know where to go back to when it happens.

09-09-2007, 11:59 PM	#4
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	I noticed something similar to this back when I used Mobipocket on my PDA. The page count of the ebook sometimes changed for no reason. It was somewhat odd.

09-10-2007, 09:53 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I've only had this happen to me once. I rebooted the iLiad and it went away; hasn't happened since.

09-10-2007, 10:51 AM	#7
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	I'm curious as to which way you have your page turn setup? To go to the next page do you use the default "flip left"? Or do you have it changed to flip right? Try swapping it to see what happens.

09-10-2007, 04:31 PM	#8
Blue Connoisseur Posts: 56 Karma: 63 Join Date: Apr 2007	Hey, I also experience this problem. I use the default settings and am currentely reading a book in ipdf. I has happened about 7 times today (am reading pretty much the entire day ). I first thought it was because of me holding the flip bar a bit to long. I'm not really aware of me using my iliad while reading so it's still possible, but I doubt that now that I read that others are also having this problem.

09-10-2007, 10:54 PM	#9
autophile Singularitarian Posts: 11 Karma: 52 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Maryland, USA Device: Motorola Xoom	This problem seems to be an issue in 2.10. I had not noticed it in the previous versions, so I think it's something new, perhaps introduced by the improved battery management. What appears to happen is that you flip the flip bar normally, but the operating system appears to hang for a short while. This is apparently treated as a long flip, which results in the 5-page skip we're experiencing. Just guessing. And I still love my iLiad --Rob

09-12-2007, 10:13 AM	#11
yokos Pac-Man caught my iLiad. Posts: 807 Karma: 3595 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany; next to Baltic Sea Device: Boox Max Lumi, iRex iLiad (RIP)	This is an old known problem. Scotty1024 has started a similar thread in Dec of 2006. What I said months ago in the other thread is still true. Using the non-default flipping direction solved it on my iLiad. I assume it is a hardware problem, too.

09-14-2007, 01:31 AM	#12
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	Mine has had that problem since the beginning (Sept. 06), it seemed to be solved in newer versions... but when it came back from being repaired, the casing was very slightly loose beside the flipbar, and it's doing it again. If I hold the casing firm while flipping, problem solved (but it means a two-handed page turn, which is a bugger).

09-16-2007, 01:20 PM	#14
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	I've occasionally seen this problem, but I have not detected any particular pattern. I adjusted my setting for the length of a "long" button press, and that seemed to help a little. I think the "software hang->OS interprets long flip" explanation sounds plausible. There may be more than one cause, however, as I can't really see why left vs. right flip would make any difference in that case.

09-21-2007, 05:33 PM	#15
ig88 Gadget Guy Posts: 76 Karma: 84 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iLiad - iPhone - OSX	It DEFINITELY is not because I am holding the bar too long. It happens so often, and it is such a PITA, that I am very anal to just barely flick the bar, as quickly as possible. Also, sometimes it happens repeatedly, as I try to go back and forth to get it to finally go the actual next page. Also, because when this problem arises, the paragraphs always change their pagination (that is, the last paragraph (or part of it) of the last read page changes to the first paragraph of the next unread page) - Because of this change in the flow of text, I would say it is a SOFTWARE problem, related to page reflowing, and not a HARDWARE problem; so I doubt that changing the direction the bar flips would resolve the issue - and I like the direction the way it is and don't want to change it. It is so prevalent that I have to pay attention to the page number displayed at the bottom every time I turn, so I know if it executed correctly or not. Takes some of the enjoyment out of the reading experience.

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