Seeking Class Action Lawyer for suit against Fictionwise - Page 2

Graham · 03-31-2010, 05:09 PM

Yup, that Sony release sums it up well. It's similar to the statement appearing from other sites.

Marcy · 03-31-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by advocate2

Marcy,

For those who purchased memberships with Paypal, how do you suggest a chargeback?

You can chargeback via Paypal. I've done it for an ebay item that was unsatisfactory. You have to wander through their info pages to find out how.

However it seems it will be unnecessary, as the new page says, "Receive a 15% discount on all Fictionwise eBooks for the entire length of your membership. This discount is ON TOP OF all other promotions, coupons, and other discounts!" Note it says *all* books, not selected books. It also says, "All existing Buywise Club members may continue to use their benefits until their memberships expire."

So you will retain your Buywise benefits. Under an agency model this seems like an even better deal. Fictionwise often had the most expensive price for ebooks anywhere. It was only a good deal by massaging the system and using the great sales. Now if everyone has to offer the books at the exact same price, getting 15% off can only be good, right?

-Marcy

JSWolf · 03-31-2010, 08:07 PM

But don't buy the new higher priced eBooks or the publishers will think this new pricing scheme actually works.

advocate2 · 03-31-2010, 08:15 PM

Wolfman,

What do I do with my micropay money if I don't buy ebooks from FW?

Elfwreck · 03-31-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by advocate2

Wolfman,

What do I do with my micropay money if I don't buy ebooks from FW?

Buy Multiformat books, which aren't affected by the new agency model. Buy books from Random House and small publishers.

sabredog · 03-31-2010, 08:33 PM

Just did a search for the "Lost Fleet" series by Jack Campbell. No listings now. there was five available for purchase 24 hours ago. Diesel still list them though.

Marcy · 04-01-2010, 12:17 AM

It is ironic that 3 of the 4 featured books on 100% rebate are among the books not available since if you click on them you are told "no longer on sale." Clearly Fictionwise was unprepared for this whole thing or they would have picked books from different publishers for this week.

-Marcy

SpiderMatt · 04-01-2010, 01:58 AM

This lawsuit would fail. Flat out fail. If you want to waste a shit ton of money to make a point and get nothing in return, go for it. Fictionwise has done nothing wrong. Buying into the Buywise Club meant a 15% off ebooks which FW said will not change for the remainder of any individual's subscription. There was no promise of what books would be available, something to company can't be expected to predict. I assume most books will return tomorrow, anyway, and as Marcy pointed out, if we get 15% off the agency model pricing, we're going to get better deals than before. I don't understand the righteous indignation and anger that's been expressed by some on this board over this decision. A day hasn't even passed yet since changes started being implemented.

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by advocate2

Wolfman,

What do I do with my micropay money if I don't buy ebooks from FW?

You wait until the agency mess is sorted at FW and all the affected books are back and then see what's what at FW.

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabredog

Just did a search for the "Lost Fleet" series by Jack Campbell. No listings now. there was five available for purchase 24 hours ago. Diesel still list them though.

Go to Sony and get them in ePub for less then for can get at Diesel and you can get ALL of them as well.

http://ebookstore.sony.com/author/jack-campbell_43887

DawnFalcon · 04-01-2010, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You wait until the agency mess is sorted at FW and all the affected books are back and then see what's what at FW.

They won't BE back. This is the point - FW need to honor the Buywise club, and that means that they can't reach agreement under the agency model. It's done, stick a spork in it.

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

They won't BE back. This is the point - FW need to honor the Buywise club, and that means that they can't reach agreement under the agency model. It's done, stick a spork in it.

How can you be 100% sure these 5 publisher's eBooks will not be available on Fictionwise?

DawnFalcon · 04-01-2010, 01:59 PM

100% sure? I'm not, but if they do come back (and they can't get a discount if Amazon can't), then the class action lawsuit mentioned would have merit!

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

100% sure? I'm not, but if they do come back (and they can't get a discount if Amazon can't), then the class action lawsuit mentioned would have merit!

I think FW will just have to bite the bullet and take the loss for all club members until the memberships are over.

DawnFalcon · 04-01-2010, 02:07 PM

Some of them have a decade+ to run. I'd be highly unsurprised if FW became a branded shell of it's parents company, with buywise kept only for legal reasons.

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03-31-2010, 05:09 PM	#16
Graham Wizard Posts: 2,743 Karma: 32912427 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Yorkshire, UK Device: Kobo H20, Pixel 2, Samsung Chromebook Plus	Yup, that Sony release sums it up well. It's similar to the statement appearing from other sites.

03-31-2010, 08:07 PM	#18
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,849 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	But don't buy the new higher priced eBooks or the publishers will think this new pricing scheme actually works.

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advocate2 My Kingdom for Karma Posts: 430 Karma: 7125 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Vegas Device: Sony 350, 650, 950, Nook Color	Wolfman, What do I do with my micropay money if I don't buy ebooks from FW?

03-31-2010, 08:33 PM	#21
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Just did a search for the "Lost Fleet" series by Jack Campbell. No listings now. there was five available for purchase 24 hours ago. Diesel still list them though.

04-01-2010, 12:17 AM	#22
Marcy Guru Posts: 893 Karma: 950683 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kobo Libra2	It is ironic that 3 of the 4 featured books on 100% rebate are among the books not available since if you click on them you are told "no longer on sale." Clearly Fictionwise was unprepared for this whole thing or they would have picked books from different publishers for this week. -Marcy

04-01-2010, 01:58 AM	#23
SpiderMatt Grand Arbiter Posts: 447 Karma: 1574837 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arizona Device: iPod Touch, Amazon Kindle, Motorola Droid	This lawsuit would fail. Flat out fail. If you want to waste a shit ton of money to make a point and get nothing in return, go for it. Fictionwise has done nothing wrong. Buying into the Buywise Club meant a 15% off ebooks which FW said will not change for the remainder of any individual's subscription. There was no promise of what books would be available, something to company can't be expected to predict. I assume most books will return tomorrow, anyway, and as Marcy pointed out, if we get 15% off the agency model pricing, we're going to get better deals than before. I don't understand the righteous indignation and anger that's been expressed by some on this board over this decision. A day hasn't even passed yet since changes started being implemented.

04-01-2010, 01:59 PM	#28
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	100% sure? I'm not, but if they do come back (and they can't get a discount if Amazon can't), then the class action lawsuit mentioned would have merit!

04-01-2010, 02:07 PM	#30
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	Some of them have a decade+ to run. I'd be highly unsurprised if FW became a branded shell of it's parents company, with buywise kept only for legal reasons.