The Dreaded Slow Page Turns Have Hit

daffy4u · 09-15-2010, 05:08 PM

I'm reading outside in the shade with a temp of 85 degrees (in the sun). My K3 page turns have slowed down noticeably. Prior to today, I'd not had this problem. Even going into sleep mode is slow. The 3.0.1 update was pushed to me yesterday. Hope this gets fixed soon.

aleccj1 · 09-15-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

I'm reading outside in the shade with a temp of 85 degrees (in the sun). My K3 page turns have slowed down noticeably. Prior to today, I'd not had this problem. Even going into sleep mode is slow. The 3.0.1 update was pushed to me yesterday. Hope this gets fixed soon.

I have a feeling it's something with the hardware. Hopefully we all get a replacement w/out the defect if it turns out to be true.

rlparker · 09-15-2010, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

I'm reading outside in the shade with a temp of 85 degrees (in the sun). My K3 page turns have slowed down noticeably. Prior to today, I'd not had this problem. Even going into sleep mode is slow. The 3.0.1 update was pushed to me yesterday. Hope this gets fixed soon.

Yikes!

Hope so too!

TheKindleWorm · 09-15-2010, 05:16 PM

Oh dear

The 3.0.1 update has worked well for me so far , no freezes and page turns seem faster. But it's pretty cold here in the UK right now.

I know from scouring the www that Amazon have users already testing a 3.0.2 firmware so hopefully that will come shortly.

desertgrandma · 09-15-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daffy4u

I'm reading outside in the shade with a temp of 85 degrees (in the sun). My K3 page turns have slowed down noticeably. Prior to today, I'd not had this problem. Even going into sleep mode is slow. The 3.0.1 update was pushed to me yesterday. Hope this gets fixed soon.

And me with my finger on the "buy now" button!! Keep us posted!

Francesco · 09-15-2010, 05:35 PM

For the first time I'm looking forward to the winter!

Oh, well... this is not good. I don't see how they could correct this through a firmware update, though. This seems like a hardware problem... don't the Sony pearl-screen devices suffer from the same syndrome?

Btw, mine is supposed to arrive this Friday!!!

Francesco · 09-15-2010, 05:39 PM

I've been thinking about it... I'll build a case with room for an ice pack!!!

JeremyR · 09-15-2010, 06:46 PM

I would think it would be a heat issue, since it only happens in the sunlight, but the problem didn't exist with the original firmware for me - just the 3.01.

I dunno. My only thought (which is just a wild guess) is maybe they set the CPU speed a little faster and thus it now it prone to overheating more? I believe sometimes the CPU is set to run lower than it actually can, because it saves energy that way.

Dwayne_Matheson · 09-15-2010, 09:00 PM

On EEVblog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYtuk...eature=channel he dials the temp up and down and the machine seems okay. Slower cold and faster warmed up. Check out around the 27 min mark. I wonder if he could test it a little longer for us and report back on if heat is a factor.

Skydog · 09-15-2010, 10:46 PM

I have the same experience with both my 3G+WiFi and WiFi - before and after the firmware upgrade.

It is strange, as this does not occur with the Graphite DX which is said to use the same Pearl display. I've tested outside at 72F, 75F, and 80F with the same results. After about two to three minutes in the sun, the refresh rate slows considerably with inverse video (black background/white text). It slows long enough to read the first line of text. When I return indoors to a cooler environment its operation returns to normal within a minute.

There are a rash of K3 users that are apparently returning their Kindles for replacement, some with no improvement.

Rather disappointing.

Fbone · 09-15-2010, 11:05 PM

The members on the Amazon forum are testing all sorts of theories. Some people are so ingenious. One gentleman thought maybe a particular light wave was responsible since the slow page turns also occurred in cool sunlight.

I will say that 95F is low for maximum operating temp considering Amazon advertises outdoor reading ability. I hope this is resolved quickly.

daffy4u · 09-15-2010, 11:26 PM

I was in the shade and not in the sunlight when the slow page turns started so it's not the sun at all.

I'm not sure what it is. The DX has the same screen but different firmware and it's size means fewer page turns for the same amount of reading as K3.

Josieb1 · 09-16-2010, 03:06 AM

I am going to Portugal for a week on Saturday. I will see how it goes.

warp · 09-16-2010, 03:44 AM

thinking about using a sunbed because its quite cold and rainy in germany, can't test whether my kindle is affected also..

grzzly · 09-16-2010, 07:52 AM

Is it really that bad for you guys? I mean I have it too, but I don't really notice it that much. Maybe the page turn is a fraction of a second slower when in sunlight (haven't had the problem in warm conditions i.e. in front of a fireplace for example yet).

It's nothing that really troubles me...

09-15-2010, 05:08 PM	#1
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	The Dreaded Slow Page Turns Have Hit I'm reading outside in the shade with a temp of 85 degrees (in the sun). My K3 page turns have slowed down noticeably. Prior to today, I'd not had this problem. Even going into sleep mode is slow. The 3.0.1 update was pushed to me yesterday. Hope this gets fixed soon.

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TheKindleWorm Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 177868 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: East Anglia UK Device: Kindle 3G, iPhone 3G, iPod 4G, PB 360, Sony 600 sold, Kindle 2i sold	Oh dear The 3.0.1 update has worked well for me so far , no freezes and page turns seem faster. But it's pretty cold here in the UK right now. I know from scouring the www that Amazon have users already testing a 3.0.2 firmware so hopefully that will come shortly.

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Francesco Aficionado Posts: 391 Karma: 710 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denver, CO, USA Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Touch	For the first time I'm looking forward to the winter! Oh, well... this is not good. I don't see how they could correct this through a firmware update, though. This seems like a hardware problem... don't the Sony pearl-screen devices suffer from the same syndrome? Btw, mine is supposed to arrive this Friday!!!

09-15-2010, 05:39 PM	#7
Francesco Aficionado Posts: 391 Karma: 710 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Denver, CO, USA Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Touch	I've been thinking about it... I'll build a case with room for an ice pack!!!

09-15-2010, 06:46 PM	#8
JeremyR Guru Posts: 973 Karma: 2458402 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Device: Kindle Keyboard, Nook HD+	I would think it would be a heat issue, since it only happens in the sunlight, but the problem didn't exist with the original firmware for me - just the 3.01. I dunno. My only thought (which is just a wild guess) is maybe they set the CPU speed a little faster and thus it now it prone to overheating more? I believe sometimes the CPU is set to run lower than it actually can, because it saves energy that way.

09-15-2010, 09:00 PM	#9
Dwayne_Matheson Connoisseur Posts: 65 Karma: 60 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Courtenay, BC Device: Kindle 3 Wifi	On EEVblog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYtuk...eature=channel he dials the temp up and down and the machine seems okay. Slower cold and faster warmed up. Check out around the 27 min mark. I wonder if he could test it a little longer for us and report back on if heat is a factor.

09-15-2010, 10:46 PM	#10
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,243 Karma: 7400001 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Forma, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Kindle Oasis3, Voyage	I have the same experience with both my 3G+WiFi and WiFi - before and after the firmware upgrade. It is strange, as this does not occur with the Graphite DX which is said to use the same Pearl display. I've tested outside at 72F, 75F, and 80F with the same results. After about two to three minutes in the sun, the refresh rate slows considerably with inverse video (black background/white text). It slows long enough to read the first line of text. When I return indoors to a cooler environment its operation returns to normal within a minute. There are a rash of K3 users that are apparently returning their Kindles for replacement, some with no improvement. Rather disappointing.

09-15-2010, 11:05 PM	#11
Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,189 Karma: 100500000 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	The members on the Amazon forum are testing all sorts of theories. Some people are so ingenious. One gentleman thought maybe a particular light wave was responsible since the slow page turns also occurred in cool sunlight. I will say that 95F is low for maximum operating temp considering Amazon advertises outdoor reading ability. I hope this is resolved quickly.

09-15-2010, 11:26 PM	#12
daffy4u I'm Super Kindle-icious Posts: 6,734 Karma: 2434103 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Drive, Calinadia Candafornia Device: KDXG, KT, Oasis	I was in the shade and not in the sunlight when the slow page turns started so it's not the sun at all. I'm not sure what it is. The DX has the same screen but different firmware and it's size means fewer page turns for the same amount of reading as K3.

09-16-2010, 03:06 AM	#13
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,009 Karma: 18018738 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Forma, Libra2, Clara 2e, Kindle PW SE & Kindle 2022	I am going to Portugal for a week on Saturday. I will see how it goes.

09-16-2010, 03:44 AM	#14
warp Connoisseur Posts: 64 Karma: 16 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	thinking about using a sunbed because its quite cold and rainy in germany, can't test whether my kindle is affected also..

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09-16-2010, 07:52 AM	#15
grzzly Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 12 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Germany Device: Kindle 3	Is it really that bad for you guys? I mean I have it too, but I don't really notice it that much. Maybe the page turn is a fraction of a second slower when in sunlight (haven't had the problem in warm conditions i.e. in front of a fireplace for example yet). It's nothing that really troubles me...