A writer with an artwork question - Page 3

ahi · 09-24-2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abecedary

I believe it is PD and not copyrighted, but they do require attribution.

If it is PD, they can require nothing... only suggest, hope, or perhaps even beg.

Popular perceptions of copyright and related issues are really in bad shape if even an agency of NASA's size cannot grasp the simple idea of their not having rights of any sort over PD material... even if it comes from them, even if they spent a 100 gajillion dollars making it, even if they worked their little NASA-ite hearts out and skipped coffee-breaks for weeks.

Or am I missing something?

- Ahi

Abecedary · 09-24-2009, 10:42 AM

You're right. I guess I should've said "they do request attribution." And it's definitely poor use of the word 'mandatory' on their part.

EDIT: And I see you've added some Bringhurst to your signature. I hadn't noticed that before.

ahi · 09-24-2009, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abecedary

You're right. I guess I should've said "they do request attribution." And it's definitely poor use of the word 'mandatory' on their part.

Wasn't blaming you...

It's their copyright-ignorance that leaves me irate.

- Ahi

Steven Lake · 10-01-2009, 05:46 PM

On a small aside, of the pictures I posted of the current book covers, two of them came out funky because of a weird color translation issue. One of them actually looked better after the conversion to CMYK (the colors changed and added a nice touch to it) but the other didn't fare so well, so I had to have someone tinker with it a bit to make it happier. Hopefully when he's done, the final product will look good.

Steven Lake · 12-12-2009, 12:33 PM

Hey guys, sorry to revive a dead thread, but I'd like to show you what a friend of mine came up with. Since mojo backed out of doing the covers for personal reasons, I showed the designs to a friend of mine, and using the free fleet logo mojo gave me as the centerpiece, he came up with these three covers for me.

Oh, and yes, the title on book 1 is misspelled, and I've told him about that. I just don't have the updated proof yet. ^_^;;

Moejoe · 12-12-2009, 12:37 PM

Make the 'O' of each title into the Earthfleet logo. H'o'meworld. Destiny's Missi'o'n. The 'O'ort Perimeter. That's my only suggestion as the artwork is very nice

Kudos to your friend

Steven Lake · 12-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Danke good sir, I'll pass that idea along.

dreams · 12-12-2009, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moejoe

Make the 'O' of each title into the Earthfleet logo. H'o'meworld. Destiny's Missi'o'n. The 'O'ort Perimeter. That's my only suggestion as the artwork is very nice

Kudos to your friend

I had the same thought before I saw Moejoe's comment. Just a little logo in each title to keep it in parallel. Again, to keep in parallel, "Book 3" may look better on the bottom, as it is on Book 1 and 2?

Nice cover artwork by your friend. They do catch your attention.

jaxx6166 · 12-14-2009, 09:10 PM

What MJ said =)

WillAdams · 12-15-2009, 07:37 AM

The placement of the ``Book #: of the Earthfleet Saga'' line should be consistent for all
iterations.

Ditto the author's name --- it's a couple of pixels off for the center version.

William

mores · 12-15-2009, 08:59 AM

NOOOOOO ... don't use the logo as a letter, that's corny, unless you want to use MS Comic Sans as a font.

I like the 2nd cover best, it's very, very appealing. Maybe reduce the size of the icon in the other two covers to match the second one

Also, the third cover is a lot nicer to look at than the first, if you#re uncertain, try using the setup from the third for the first (Name - title - Logo)

The blue icon on a blueish background is hard to see, I'd make it white with some transparency.

jaxx6166 · 12-17-2009, 07:14 PM

I'd also subscribe to a newspaper style for font placement.

What do you want the most important part of the cover to be? Your name? The title? The series?

Imagine the cover has an imaginary line on it right in the middle. Everything above it is more important than what's below it.

I'd do the title, name, book number...in that order.

I think your second cover, Destiny's Mission, is the perfect cover style for all 3.

Except I'd center the title. Then again, I can barely draw a stick figure and am not the best for advice here

12-12-2009, 12:33 PM	#35
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	Hey guys, sorry to revive a dead thread, but I'd like to show you what a friend of mine came up with. Since mojo backed out of doing the covers for personal reasons, I showed the designs to a friend of mine, and using the free fleet logo mojo gave me as the centerpiece, he came up with these three covers for me. Oh, and yes, the title on book 1 is misspelled, and I've told him about that. I just don't have the updated proof yet. ^_^;; Last edited by Steven Lake; 12-12-2009 at 12:41 PM.

12-12-2009, 12:37 PM	#36
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	Make the 'O' of each title into the Earthfleet logo. H'o'meworld. Destiny's Missi'o'n. The 'O'ort Perimeter. That's my only suggestion as the artwork is very nice Kudos to your friend Last edited by Moejoe; 12-12-2009 at 12:40 PM.

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09-24-2009, 10:42 AM	#32
Abecedary Exwyzeeologist Posts: 535 Karma: 3261 Join Date: Jun 2009 Device: :PRS-505::iPod touch:	You're right. I guess I should've said "they do request attribution." And it's definitely poor use of the word 'mandatory' on their part. EDIT: And I see you've added some Bringhurst to your signature. I hadn't noticed that before.

10-01-2009, 05:46 PM	#34
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	On a small aside, of the pictures I posted of the current book covers, two of them came out funky because of a weird color translation issue. One of them actually looked better after the conversion to CMYK (the colors changed and added a nice touch to it) but the other didn't fare so well, so I had to have someone tinker with it a bit to make it happier. Hopefully when he's done, the final product will look good.

12-12-2009, 12:42 PM	#37
Steven Lake Sci-Fi Author Posts: 1,157 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre)	Danke good sir, I'll pass that idea along.

12-14-2009, 09:10 PM	#39
jaxx6166 Wizard Posts: 1,222 Karma: 769316 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eternal summer Device: 350, iPad, PW	What MJ said =)

12-15-2009, 07:37 AM	#40
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,234 Karma: 3350652 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	The placement of the ``Book #: of the Earthfleet Saga'' line should be consistent for all iterations. Ditto the author's name --- it's a couple of pixels off for the center version. William

12-15-2009, 08:59 AM	#41
mores Guru Posts: 834 Karma: 102419 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Device: iPhone	NOOOOOO ... don't use the logo as a letter, that's corny, unless you want to use MS Comic Sans as a font. I like the 2nd cover best, it's very, very appealing. Maybe reduce the size of the icon in the other two covers to match the second one Also, the third cover is a lot nicer to look at than the first, if you#re uncertain, try using the setup from the third for the first (Name - title - Logo) The blue icon on a blueish background is hard to see, I'd make it white with some transparency.

12-17-2009, 07:14 PM	#42
jaxx6166 Wizard Posts: 1,222 Karma: 769316 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eternal summer Device: 350, iPad, PW	I'd also subscribe to a newspaper style for font placement. What do you want the most important part of the cover to be? Your name? The title? The series? Imagine the cover has an imaginary line on it right in the middle. Everything above it is more important than what's below it. I'd do the title, name, book number...in that order. I think your second cover, Destiny's Mission, is the perfect cover style for all 3. Except I'd center the title. Then again, I can barely draw a stick figure and am not the best for advice here

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