Seriousness Don't believe....

GeoffC · 04-15-2010, 10:28 AM

.... everything you see !!!!

BBC Web article !

omk3 · 04-15-2010, 06:48 PM

Very interesting, thanks.
I know I for one am a very unreliable eye witness. Thankfully I have not needed to be more accurate until now for any serious reason, I just fail to notice new haircuts or weight changes or new glasses

(I do notice avatar changes though!)

GraceKrispy · 04-16-2010, 03:08 AM

Actually, itʻs the things I canʻt see that I sometimes find hard to believe. But sometimes, itʻs easier to believe the things you canʻt see.

You know, they say that if you had to choose to be either blind or deaf, itʻd be much better to be blind. I can understand the reasoning, I guess... hearing is more valuable to survival and whatnot... but itʻs far more terrifying for me when I canʻt see anything than it is when I canʻt hear.

And, going back to your original thought, if you shouldnʻt believe everything you see, how does that work if you canʻt see anything at all? Do you believe, or not?

I think these thoughts need some chocolate. Dark, preferably. I had chocolate dipped in peanut butter for lunch. I also ate some mixed vegetables. I feel that covered most food groups.

GeoffC · 04-16-2010, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GraceKrispy

You know, they say that if you had to choose to be either blind or deaf, itʻd be much better to be blind. I can understand the reasoning, I guess... hearing is more valuable to survival and whatnot... but itʻs far more terrifying for me when I canʻt see anything than it is when I canʻt hear.

believe me, it's not pleasant; one just has to get on with life, though .... it may be harder than being born deaf and un-aware, than to have to live with memories each day ...

FlorenceArt · 04-16-2010, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GraceKrispy

You know, they say that if you had to choose to be either blind or deaf, itʻd be much better to be blind. I can understand the reasoning, I guess... hearing is more valuable to survival and whatnot... but itʻs far more terrifying for me when I canʻt see anything than it is when I canʻt hear.

who says that? I've never heard it and it doesn't make sense to me. Practically every information that we need to function and survive in our human society is provided in a visual manner, starting with when it's safe to cross the street. Sure, I also use my hearing when I cross the street, but if I couldn't hear I could still cross. I'd just have to use my eyes extra carefully. I see blind people crossing the street without any help, so it's possible obviously, but it must be a harrowing experience. It scares me just to think about it.

And how about knowing where you are, or how to go where you want to go, when you can't read street names, signs, or maps?

Obviously, I'm a very visual kind of person

But I would be totally useless as an eye witness, because I never notice things about people. I need to work with someone for weeks and see them every day before I could recognize them on the street

GraceKrispy · 04-16-2010, 04:24 AM

Hmm.. now Iʻm wondering where I heard/read that? Itʻs been in my head for a long time, but I remember being very surprised when I first encountered that idea. So I just tried looking it up. I found some paraphrasing of Oliver Sachʻs work; apparently he thinks it depends upon the age of someone. As a child, itʻs better to have your hearing, as that is how you experience and learn language. That seems familiar to me, so I think thatʻs what stuck in my mind... canʻt remember exactly how it related to safety, and itʻs past my bedtime, so Iʻll have to save that research for another time.

04-15-2010, 10:28 AM	#1
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,600 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Don't believe.... .... everything you see !!!! BBC Web article !

04-15-2010, 06:48 PM	#2
omk3 Wizard Posts: 1,454 Karma: 37243 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Europe Device: pocketbook 360, kindle 4	Very interesting, thanks. I know I for one am a very unreliable eye witness. Thankfully I have not needed to be more accurate until now for any serious reason, I just fail to notice new haircuts or weight changes or new glasses (I do notice avatar changes though!)

04-16-2010, 03:08 AM	#3
GraceKrispy It's Dr. Penguin now! Posts: 3,909 Karma: 4705733 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: (USA) Device: iPad mini, Samsung Note 3, Sony PRS-650 (rarely used now)	Actually, itʻs the things I canʻt see that I sometimes find hard to believe. But sometimes, itʻs easier to believe the things you canʻt see. You know, they say that if you had to choose to be either blind or deaf, itʻd be much better to be blind. I can understand the reasoning, I guess... hearing is more valuable to survival and whatnot... but itʻs far more terrifying for me when I canʻt see anything than it is when I canʻt hear. And, going back to your original thought, if you shouldnʻt believe everything you see, how does that work if you canʻt see anything at all? Do you believe, or not? I think these thoughts need some chocolate. Dark, preferably. I had chocolate dipped in peanut butter for lunch. I also ate some mixed vegetables. I feel that covered most food groups.

04-16-2010, 04:24 AM	#6
GraceKrispy It's Dr. Penguin now! Posts: 3,909 Karma: 4705733 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: (USA) Device: iPad mini, Samsung Note 3, Sony PRS-650 (rarely used now)	Hmm.. now Iʻm wondering where I heard/read that? Itʻs been in my head for a long time, but I remember being very surprised when I first encountered that idea. So I just tried looking it up. I found some paraphrasing of Oliver Sachʻs work; apparently he thinks it depends upon the age of someone. As a child, itʻs better to have your hearing, as that is how you experience and learn language. That seems familiar to me, so I think thatʻs what stuck in my mind... canʻt remember exactly how it related to safety, and itʻs past my bedtime, so Iʻll have to save that research for another time.

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