Firware 1.7 Original Kobo - Page 3

sabredog · 11-12-2010, 09:17 PM

Exactly. Some people want firmware upgrades almost immediately so as to solve "their" particular issue. When the rushed release fails, those said same people are the first to complain.

zoran · 11-13-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by taming

I paid $750 for a new computer and a month later the same manufacturer had a better one for the same price.

Wow! It is a sum of cash!
I always buy parts and put them together. Last was stream server
for under 150 euros. I assume that fine phenom II box could be
made for about 350 euros. Integrated graphic from amd is much
better than anything I ever had on my nodes. I strongly consider
avoiding cd/dvd, since it is simple and fun installing from usb
stick.
Regarding picture of kobo1 with nytimes, I would like to know how
it was transffered to the device.

PeterT · 11-13-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by zoran

Regarding picture of kobo1 with nytimes, I would like to know how
it was transffered to the device.

It's safe to say using an internal release of firmware. Remember, JC works for Kobo.

taming · 11-13-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

It's safe to say using an internal release of firmware. Remember, JC works for Kobo.

Yup. He is the director of product management.

zoran · 11-13-2010, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

It's safe to say using an internal release of firmware. Remember, JC works for Kobo.

Yeah!

I was curious if it has some interface through computer. Otherwise,
it takes a lot of work on device side. I do not doubt it might take pc
as a proxy, but, knowing manufacturer to this moment, I suspect all
was done inside application, stored there and simply moved to the
reader.
Also, is there any conversion of html/xml code?

timlegge · 11-13-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zoran

Yeah!

I was curious if it has some interface through computer. Otherwise,
it takes a lot of work on device side. I do not doubt it might take pc
as a proxy, but, knowing manufacturer to this moment, I suspect all
was done inside application, stored there and simply moved to the
reader.
Also, is there any conversion of html/xml code?

The original kobo has only one way to get anything on the device. The USB connection to the pc. From what I understand the Bluetooth simply syncs bookmarks on a select few blackberries.

I keep thinking about looking at the bluetooth implementation. There should be no reason it can't be used to transfer epubs and possibly newspapers from the host pc. No reason except the existence of a pc component to read the kobo desktop software and possibly hacked firmware on the device.

Calibre could also be extended to push a file over Bluetooth I imagine.

An interesting project for someone...

Tim

dspitler · 11-13-2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlegge

The original kobo has only one way to get anything on the device. The USB connection to the pc. From what I understand the Bluetooth simply syncs bookmarks on a select few blackberries.

I keep thinking about looking at the bluetooth implementation. There should be no reason it can't be used to transfer epubs and possibly newspapers from the host pc. No reason except the existence of a pc component to read the kobo desktop software and possibly hacked firmware on the device.

Calibre could also be extended to push a file over Bluetooth I imagine.

An interesting project for someone...

Tim

In OS X at least, you can pair with the Kobo and push files to it. The problem is the Kobo only updates its database after it's been unplugged, so you'd have to connect it to USB (power adapter or PC) anyways to see the new books; something I'm sure can be fixed in firmware, if Kobo is willing.

zoran · 11-13-2010, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlegge

I keep thinking about looking at the bluetooth implementation. There should be no reason it can't be used to transfer epubs and possibly newspapers from the host pc. No reason except the existence of a pc component to read the kobo desktop software and possibly hacked firmware on the device.

I have a usb dongle somewhere. Bought and used for one purpose,
to make some job for nokia cell phone. I connected from bsd node
and had no problem at all.

Compiling Calibre for freebsd is not a fun. Since epub is a container,
there is a chance to have a template and simply insert xml code to it.
I might be wrong, of course, regarding that. After name change, it
could be put to the reader. I'm not sure what compabillity it takes. I
was positive it should meet chip, not device. Operating system found
chip as supported and I loaded modules and it used protocol as it is.

At this moment I feel not ready to brick my reader. I could always re-
install from SD card, but why? If manufacturer has beta working, voila.
People on the forum mostly use win, some of them mac, a bunch use
linux, one or two bsd. The first group wants newspapers and gets it.
Spite a bit late, one point for kobo.

PeterT · 11-13-2010, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timlegge

The original kobo has only one way to get anything on the device. The USB connection to the pc. From what I understand the Bluetooth simply syncs bookmarks on a select few blackberries.

Actually Tim, I was able to move an ePub to the Kobo-1 via Bluetooth from my PC. I just made use of the standard Bluetooth file transfer ability. Now, the book did NOT show up however until I forced the Kobo to do a rescan, which I seem to think I did by plugging it into a USB charger and then disconnecting it.

timlegge · 11-13-2010, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

Actually Tim, I was able to move an ePub to the Kobo-1 via Bluetooth from my PC. I just made use of the standard Bluetooth file transfer ability. Now, the book did NOT show up however until I forced the Kobo to do a rescan, which I seem to think I did by plugging it into a USB charger and then disconnecting it.

Very cool. I had never bothered to try it. My only bluetooth is a 99 cent jobbie fro hong kong delivery included. It works some of the time so I must take a look at it.

I would think that the should be a way to get the firmware to look for new books after the disconnect from Bluetooth...

Tim

zoran · 11-13-2010, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dspitler

In OS X at least, you can pair with the Kobo and push files to it. The problem is the Kobo only updates its database after it's been unplugged, so you'd have to connect it to USB (power adapter or PC) anyways to see the new books; something I'm sure can be fixed in firmware, if Kobo is willing.

They wrote a function to trigger that and chose it to be some power
up/down. I'm sure it would be trivial to add one more instance for it
and point menu to the function. Title could be "rescan".

J. Strnad · 11-13-2010, 07:24 PM

"Soon" is a relative concept. The younger you are, the shorter a time can be and still be called "soon." If you are six and on a road trip, and your parents say that they'll arrive at the destination "soon," it had better be right around the corner. If you're going for ice cream, "soon" would mean "in the next two seconds."

On the other hand, there will "soon" be a major earthquake in Southern California, meaning "sometime in the next thirty years."

Regarding firmware upgrades, "soon" is very hard to pin down. For some people, nothing longer than "the next thirty minutes" is soon enough to be "soon."

mwlcarter · 11-16-2010, 02:29 PM

Dunno about anyone else, but I feel that a bugfix firmware update should have been released immediately to remove the auto-poweroff behaviour of the latest firmware. When I pick up my Kobo, I want to read, not look at it for thirty seconds while it boots.

It'd be nice if it actually turned back on to the page I was reading, too, instead of making me select the book from the menu and wait another few seconds.

Seriously, basic basic basic usability issues have been left to languish for far too long. Release a firmware update that fixes all the simple tiny issues that annoy people. How hard is it to do bugfixes to a stable codebase and keep a separate unstable codebase for major revisions?

PeterT · 11-16-2010, 02:57 PM

I have learnt to plan ever so slightly ahead; I often want to read when I am having a coffee; so at home, before I head to the kitchen I hit the power on button, and if I am out, before ordering at Timmies or elsewhere, I hit the power on.

Problem solved!

I sip the coffee and the device is ready for me.

roguefan99 · 11-17-2010, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwlcarter

Dunno about anyone else, but I feel that a bugfix firmware update should have been released immediately to remove the auto-poweroff behaviour of the latest firmware. When I pick up my Kobo, I want to read, not look at it for thirty seconds while it boots.

The irony of this is that it was a bugfix to the people that were complaining the battery of their kobo was dying unexpectedly due to them leaving it on all the time. i.e. its not a bug its a feature.

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11-12-2010, 09:17 PM	#31
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	Exactly. Some people want firmware upgrades almost immediately so as to solve "their" particular issue. When the rushed release fails, those said same people are the first to complain.

11-13-2010, 07:24 PM	#42
J. Strnad Guru Posts: 915 Karma: 3537194 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo, Kindle 3, Paperwhite	"Soon" is a relative concept. The younger you are, the shorter a time can be and still be called "soon." If you are six and on a road trip, and your parents say that they'll arrive at the destination "soon," it had better be right around the corner. If you're going for ice cream, "soon" would mean "in the next two seconds." On the other hand, there will "soon" be a major earthquake in Southern California, meaning "sometime in the next thirty years." Regarding firmware upgrades, "soon" is very hard to pin down. For some people, nothing longer than "the next thirty minutes" is soon enough to be "soon."

11-16-2010, 02:29 PM	#43
mwlcarter Connoisseur Posts: 52 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Catharines, ON Device: Kobo eReader	Dunno about anyone else, but I feel that a bugfix firmware update should have been released immediately to remove the auto-poweroff behaviour of the latest firmware. When I pick up my Kobo, I want to read, not look at it for thirty seconds while it boots. It'd be nice if it actually turned back on to the page I was reading, too, instead of making me select the book from the menu and wait another few seconds. Seriously, basic basic basic usability issues have been left to languish for far too long. Release a firmware update that fixes all the simple tiny issues that annoy people. How hard is it to do bugfixes to a stable codebase and keep a separate unstable codebase for major revisions?

11-16-2010, 02:57 PM	#44
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 12,224 Karma: 74000000 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Nexus 7, Clara, Touch, Tolino EPOS	I have learnt to plan ever so slightly ahead; I often want to read when I am having a coffee; so at home, before I head to the kitchen I hit the power on button, and if I am out, before ordering at Timmies or elsewhere, I hit the power on. Problem solved! I sip the coffee and the device is ready for me.

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