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Old 10-13-2011, 04:53 PM   #1
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trying scifi/fantasy..

I'm more a fan of DeLillo, Pynchon, Follett, etc and generally prefer reality to fantasy, but I figure there must be something I like that's within the genre. I absolutely cannot stand harry potter or twilight, or stories where a high-school wizard comes into his powers. I love multiplots, complexity is good, something not completely cliched. I've read lord of the rings and a game of thrones (debating if I should continue or wait till the rest come out), but nothing beyond those.

I've heard of Robert Jordan and Terry Goodkind but haven't looked too hard into either of them. Would they be a good place to go next, or if not, then what?
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:12 PM   #2
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Guy Gavriel Kay: Either The Lions of Al Rassan or Tigana
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:16 PM   #3
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As a sidebar to your question: Since you appear to like Post-Modernist literature (as do I), have you read William Gaddis?

You might also look into Haruki Murakami, whom you are already probably aware of.



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Old 10-13-2011, 05:18 PM   #4
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generally prefer reality to fantasy
Oh oh, a masochist... you can be cured

I consider Jordan and Goodkind to be fantasy; for scifi of current vintage I would point to CJ Cherryh's Foreigner series, or Alastair Reynolds, or (?) McDermottJack McDevitt, or Jeffery Carver, or .. or

Take a look at this flowchart for finding your choice of the 100 best scifi - it may be a little less biased than I am certainly more complete!

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Old 10-13-2011, 05:19 PM   #5
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As a sidebar to your question: Since you appear to like Post-Modernist literature (as do I), have you read William Gaddis?

You might also look into Haruki Murakami, whom you probably are already aware of.



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Old 10-13-2011, 05:20 PM   #6
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I recommend reading the first three Song of Ice and Fire books (A Game of Thrones is book 1), but I haven't read book 4 yet.

Robin Hobb's Farseer Trilogy is excellent. It starts with Assassin's Apprentice. Take a look at the ebook sample and see if it hooks you.
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:25 PM   #7
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TC Southwell's books about The Queen's Blade might be something for you. Refreshingly free of teen wizards, pseudo-vampires, and humble nobodies forced to save the world as they never knew it.
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Old 10-13-2011, 05:52 PM   #8
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i don't know how many, if any, are in ebook form but i'd recommend the works Adam Roberts. he writes very unusual/trippy sci-fi and fantasy in the vein of someone like Philip Jose Farmer.
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I just finished re-reading the first of EE (Doc) Smith's Lensman books, and I feel confident in not recommending them to you.
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As a sidebar to your question: Since you appear to like Post-Modernist literature (as do I), have you read William Gaddis?

You might also look into Haruki Murakami, whom you probably are already aware of.



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I've heard of Gaddis before, but never have read any of his work. Hmm, I notice Amazon has Agape Agape on their Kindle store..
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:36 PM   #11
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Welcome to MR!

My favorite SF is Dhalgren - Samuel R. Delany followed by The Foundation Trilogy - Issac Asimov

There are a couple of "recommended SF" threads..

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=152359

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=142009

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...cience+fiction

also:
http://scifilists.sffjazz.com/lists_books_rank1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SF_Masterworks

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011...ice?intcmp=239

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Old 10-13-2011, 11:20 PM   #12
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How about Joe Abercrombie and the The First Law series? Definitely not Harry Potter.
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Orson Scott Cards "Ender's Trilogy" is a good multi-layered sci-fi, and of course anything by Philip K. Dick is incredible. [WARNING Tangent Ahead] Seriously, regardless of the (often ridiculous) situations Dick puts his characters they jump off the page...maybe it's just me but I'm constantly amazed at how multi-layered his characters are.
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Frank Herbert's Dune series (the original 6 books). Deep, introspective, complex and pretty much set the template for things like A Song of Ice and Fire. They're science fiction but honestly could take place in any time period or genre, the technology is secondary to the story and they're more reliant on dialogue and inner monologue than action.
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Sci-Fi - C. J. Cherryh's Alliance-Union universe is fascinating --- _Downbelow Station_ is an amazing book and well worth reading (Hugo Winner if I recall correctly). The other books in the series are interesting in their own right, though many have markedly different characters and points of conflict.

Fantasy - Roger Zelazny's Amber Books are interesting and may hold up your idea of a multi-leveled plot (or not).
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