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To Answer Geoff and Wetdoeared. I speak several languages. I also Teach a few as well. I would say the short answer is as weddog stated. You tend to be able to speak when you no longer have to think in your native tongue. I try to teach students Not to think in their native tongue from the beginning. It helps immensely at later stages when speaking at intermediate or higher level. Then, as a speaker you answers are quicker and more natural. As for multi-language speaking. IT actually helps you more than hurts you. I have had French and German words pop into my head when I am speaking Russian. This has helped me as there are many words in Russian from those languages. When I first moved back to Japan. I had trouble speaking in Japanese, because Russian words kept popping in my head as I spoke ( I moved from Moscow to Japan to marry my wife). However, after a while it became easier. In short, it can be confusing but most of the time it becomes naturural as does and skill. When I type in this thread I do not look at the keyboard. IT just comes naturally due to the typing class I had in secondary school (granted I do have typos from time to time). Speaking in several languages is similiar. It gets easier the more you learn of the language as well as the more languages you learn. |
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A pet peeve of mine is when native English speakers (and this may be true for all languages) try to speak to non-English visitors and leave out words and use improper grammar to try and simplify the language for the benefit of the listener. I can't give you an example because I just won't do it!
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many native speakers are not used to "alternative" or unusual pronunciation. |
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01-27-2009, 11:11 AM | #65 |
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a pet peeve of mind is people who speak without moving their lips ....
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Is it spelled pronunce or pronounce? Pronunciation or pronounciation? My spell checker thinks pronounce and pronunciation are the correct forms. Last edited by tompe; 01-27-2009 at 11:21 AM. |
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ignore me, i'll go away ....
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Therefore, I believe the correct forms in the context that you suggest are pronounce and pronunciation. |
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Yes, but it you google you see all the forms. Googling more I cannot find any explanation for the difference in spelling.
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A good example is the various forms of politeness in Japanese. I may not be able to carry on a complete conversation in Japanese, but I can spot which forms of address and verb forms are being used, and I know enough of the language to be able to understand a fair amount of what that says about the relationships between the speakers. I don't think I've ever seen or heard an English translation that really captured those nuances (except the ones that simply adopt Japanese terms and expect the English speakers to keep up). Quote:
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For reference, I studied Japanese for two years at university and I watch quite a bit of anime in the original language. My two daughters are Chinese and were not infants when we adopted them, so I learned Chinese to be able to speak with them, and was their primary translator for their first six months or so in the U.S. We have often watched Chinese videos together, as well. |
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"Pronunce" is not an English word, but it may be in use in other languages. |
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... exits stage right shaking head and muttering under breath ....
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