Do you avoid DRM ebooks? - Page 2

TomF · 08-24-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by superstitious

Nope I don't avoid drm'ed ebooks. Just recently learn how to crack them and I feel that taking just a bit of time to strip the drm is not a big deal since it'll protect my purchases in a long run. I don't hate drm but prefer to not have it.

Exactly what he said.

alsaan · 08-24-2010, 03:36 AM

Any product that comes bundled with DRM is guaranteed to stop working at some indefinite point in the future, so I generally avoid purchasing this kind of content.

Still, I want to support the ebook industry, so I'll reluctantly purchase protected titles as long as it is possible to strip the DRM.

DiapDealer · 08-24-2010, 11:32 AM

I understand the people who don't want to support DRM'ed ebooks. It's commendable. And if you're OK with excluding the works of authors who don't have DRM-free versions of their books available, then you will still have plenty to read... and your principles will remain intact. But...

My problem is that I consider myself a reader first... then a reader of ebooks... then a hater of DRM (in that order). And as a reader, I've spent forty-odd years building a list of favorite authors... authors whose works I will purchase the moment they are published. I'm not willing to put the reading of my favorite authors' works on hold while publishing houses learn the hard lesson that purposely crippling a product you're trying to sell is not a good idea.

So while I'm sure that I would still have plenty to read if I chose to purchase DRM-free ebooks exclusively... I wouldn't be reading the books that I want to read the most. Those authors of DRM-free books may possibly become my favorites -- given enough time. But, I'm not willing to re-invent the wheel at this point in my reading-life.

So I buy what I like... and strip what doesn't conform to my sense of fair-play.

HarryT · 08-24-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jrchase

I've passed on many an ebook because of DRM. Is DRM a factor in your purchase these days?

No, simply because it's such a trifling task to remove the DRM.

Mickey330 · 08-24-2010, 01:04 PM

The only DRM book(s) I avoid like the plague are Topaz books from Amazon.

All others - I'm with DiapDealer. If I want the book, and it's at the right price, for me, then I'm getting it.

Marilyn

abookreader · 08-24-2010, 01:21 PM

Nearly every book I buy is infected with DRM since I primarily read current, popular fiction titles. I do not buy eBooks where I cannot remove the DRM (iBooks) and every book I buy is stripped and backed-up on my computer system before I ever read it.

With my new Kindle hopefully here this weekend I am oh so glad I don't have to download title by title a newly DRM'd copy of all my books. Hopefully Calibre compatibility will come along fairly quickly and I'll be able to mass select and move to device.

ProfCrash · 08-24-2010, 01:21 PM

Nope. I am fine with buying DRMed books. I have yet to bother with cracking the DRM because I have not needed to. I know that I can if needed so I am not that worried about it.

bwaldron · 08-24-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jrchase

I've passed on many an ebook because of DRM. Is DRM a factor in your purchase these days?

Not really. While I prefer to support authors and publishers who do not use DRM (I have bought tons of Baen books, for instance), there are too many books out there that I want to read that are DRM-laden.

I do remove DRM from all my purchases (that have it), and would not purchase any books that used DRM that I could not strip.

SkyDream · 08-24-2010, 01:51 PM

Always try to avoid DRM when possible.
That's not only true for eBook but for music too.
I stopped buying CD's when they started to protect them. Sometimes you couldn't played them at your PC or car because of the protection.

church mouse · 08-24-2010, 02:04 PM

As so many others have already said in reply:

Buy what I want to read.

Remove what I don't want to be there.

Read on what I want to read on.

Sydney's Mom · 08-24-2010, 02:36 PM

Same-

Buy what I want to read, if it is available. I do still walk by bookstores, and that fuels my interest. If the book doesn't exist in ebook form, or is being windowed, on to the next. So many books, so little time.

Remove the DRM.

Read on my Kindle, but know I can read on whatever device I choose.

JSWolf · 08-24-2010, 02:40 PM

If the DRM is such that I can remove it, I won't pass. But if I cannot strip off the DRM, I will pass. Topaz I pas son because even though the DRM can be stripped, it's a pain and not worth it.

Sydney's Mom · 08-24-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If the DRM is such that I can remove it, I won't pass. But if I cannot strip off the DRM, I will pass. Topaz I pas son because even though the DRM can be stripped, it's a pain and not worth it.

Ditto re Topaz. Too much trouble. Too much clicking.

gandor62 · 08-24-2010, 03:15 PM

I got caught out very badly with Mobiread ebooks. I used to read on a Palmpilot then an HP Ipaq, I then purchased an Apple Touch ipod, now I use an Apple Ipad, I have also ordered a Kindle for the Wife and have purchased a couple of Kobos for My adult children. So all the ebooks I bought up to 10 or more years ago are not readable to me or other family members in their current DRM mobi and LIT formats. Over two hundred books now useless. I still obtain ebooks, but only non DRM formats. I have to admit that if I came across a copy of one of the books that I already own that did not have the DRM on it I would take it, legally or not.
Its a sad situation, I don't have a social life due to being a shift worker and can purchase up to 100 books a year, I no longer want them in Print and some good authors are missing out on on income from me.
I would accept DRM if the license would guarantee that I own the Ebooks and if I change or use multiple devices I could re download in the format I require, Forever. If not, well, enough said.

chilady1 · 08-24-2010, 03:24 PM

It's funny, when I first started with e-books, I really didn't think much about DRM, however, since I have learned so much from this board and other places, DRM is a pain in the ass!

I am especially finding this out as I impatiently await my new Kindle and try to figure out how to get all the books from my old Kindle to my new Kindle. I have been able to work some "magic" on most of my library, however, I have about 25 topaz books that I have re-sent to my new Kindle, and 135 azw books I have been unable to work "magic" on.

I refuse to EVER download another topaz book, I don't care how much I want to read it. DRM is the devil!

08-24-2010, 03:15 PM	#29
gandor62 Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 14 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Australia Device: iPod Touch, Ipad, Kindle 2	I got caught out very badly with Mobiread ebooks. I used to read on a Palmpilot then an HP Ipaq, I then purchased an Apple Touch ipod, now I use an Apple Ipad, I have also ordered a Kindle for the Wife and have purchased a couple of Kobos for My adult children. So all the ebooks I bought up to 10 or more years ago are not readable to me or other family members in their current DRM mobi and LIT formats. Over two hundred books now useless. I still obtain ebooks, but only non DRM formats. I have to admit that if I came across a copy of one of the books that I already own that did not have the DRM on it I would take it, legally or not. Its a sad situation, I don't have a social life due to being a shift worker and can purchase up to 100 books a year, I no longer want them in Print and some good authors are missing out on on income from me. I would accept DRM if the license would guarantee that I own the Ebooks and if I change or use multiple devices I could re download in the format I require, Forever. If not, well, enough said. Last edited by gandor62; 08-24-2010 at 03:18 PM.

08-24-2010, 03:24 PM	#30
chilady1 I devour books! Posts: 789 Karma: 1285226 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: iPad Air, Kindle 3/Kobo Aura HD, iPhone 6	DRM books It's funny, when I first started with e-books, I really didn't think much about DRM, however, since I have learned so much from this board and other places, DRM is a pain in the ass! I am especially finding this out as I impatiently await my new Kindle and try to figure out how to get all the books from my old Kindle to my new Kindle. I have been able to work some "magic" on most of my library, however, I have about 25 topaz books that I have re-sent to my new Kindle, and 135 azw books I have been unable to work "magic" on. I refuse to EVER download another topaz book, I don't care how much I want to read it. DRM is the devil!

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08-24-2010, 03:36 AM	#17
alsaan Enthusiast Posts: 27 Karma: 2000 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 2 & Kindle 3	Any product that comes bundled with DRM is guaranteed to stop working at some indefinite point in the future, so I generally avoid purchasing this kind of content. Still, I want to support the ebook industry, so I'll reluctantly purchase protected titles as long as it is possible to strip the DRM.

08-24-2010, 11:32 AM	#18
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I understand the people who don't want to support DRM'ed ebooks. It's commendable. And if you're OK with excluding the works of authors who don't have DRM-free versions of their books available, then you will still have plenty to read... and your principles will remain intact. But... My problem is that I consider myself a reader first... then a reader of ebooks... then a hater of DRM (in that order). And as a reader, I've spent forty-odd years building a list of favorite authors... authors whose works I will purchase the moment they are published. I'm not willing to put the reading of my favorite authors' works on hold while publishing houses learn the hard lesson that purposely crippling a product you're trying to sell is not a good idea. So while I'm sure that I would still have plenty to read if I chose to purchase DRM-free ebooks exclusively... I wouldn't be reading the books that I want to read the most. Those authors of DRM-free books may possibly become my favorites -- given enough time. But, I'm not willing to re-invent the wheel at this point in my reading-life. So I buy what I like... and strip what doesn't conform to my sense of fair-play.

08-24-2010, 01:04 PM	#20
Mickey330 Addict Posts: 378 Karma: 1107420 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Western New York state (USA) Device: Kindle Oasis & the Kindle app on iDevices	The only DRM book(s) I avoid like the plague are Topaz books from Amazon. All others - I'm with DiapDealer. If I want the book, and it's at the right price, for me, then I'm getting it. Marilyn

08-24-2010, 01:21 PM	#21
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	Nearly every book I buy is infected with DRM since I primarily read current, popular fiction titles. I do not buy eBooks where I cannot remove the DRM (iBooks) and every book I buy is stripped and backed-up on my computer system before I ever read it. With my new Kindle hopefully here this weekend I am oh so glad I don't have to download title by title a newly DRM'd copy of all my books. Hopefully Calibre compatibility will come along fairly quickly and I'll be able to mass select and move to device.

08-24-2010, 01:21 PM	#22
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Nope. I am fine with buying DRMed books. I have yet to bother with cracking the DRM because I have not needed to. I know that I can if needed so I am not that worried about it.

08-24-2010, 01:51 PM	#24
SkyDream Wizard Posts: 1,377 Karma: 9400 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Europe Device: PRS-650, iPod touch 4G, iPad 3	Always try to avoid DRM when possible. That's not only true for eBook but for music too. I stopped buying CD's when they started to protect them. Sometimes you couldn't played them at your PC or car because of the protection.

08-24-2010, 02:04 PM	#25
church mouse Evangelist Posts: 482 Karma: 5277078 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Voyage, Kobo Clara HD, Kobo H2O, Boox Poke 2	As so many others have already said in reply: Buy what I want to read. Remove what I don't want to be there. Read on what I want to read on.

08-24-2010, 02:36 PM	#26
Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,895 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	Same- Buy what I want to read, if it is available. I do still walk by bookstores, and that fuels my interest. If the book doesn't exist in ebook form, or is being windowed, on to the next. So many books, so little time. Remove the DRM. Read on my Kindle, but know I can read on whatever device I choose.

08-24-2010, 02:40 PM	#27
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,983 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If the DRM is such that I can remove it, I won't pass. But if I cannot strip off the DRM, I will pass. Topaz I pas son because even though the DRM can be stripped, it's a pain and not worth it.

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