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Old 02-25-2014, 11:37 AM   #16
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The original trilogy of books are actually pretty respectable fantasy. It's after that that the series descends into bondage and soft porn.

I should have mentioned that. Yes: The first 3 (maybe 4) were excellent.

As a series, however, I stand by my opinion.
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Old 02-25-2014, 03:22 PM   #17
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I though the first one was quite poor, myself.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:54 AM   #18
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In my opinion, the Gor novels are some of the most distasteful and horribly written fantasy novels I've ever encountered.

I'm happy that you enjoy them, though.
I'm afraid you misunderstood my post - I was actually trying to convey how bad of a writer I thought Goodkind is, and the way he writes and the way women are treated in SoT is very similar IMHO.

Actually, I read the Gor novels long ago when I was young. At the time I thought he wrote a lot like Edgar Rice Burroughs and I enjoyed the first couple of books, until the tone of the books took a hard misogynist turn. Even as a teenage boy in the 60's I was repelled. Goodkind isn't as overt as Norman, but the women still are treated very badly in his series.

Sorry I was unclear in my original post.
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I should have added in my last post that I was trying (unsuccessfully, I guess) to be a little sarcastic in my initial post, as I find Ayn Rand's philosophy to be equally as abhorrent as Norman's misogyny. However, I think if someone is comfortable with both writers, they just might like Goodkind.
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Sorry I was unclear in my original post.
I thought you were pretty clear.

I'm something of a Goodkind exile --- I liked him in my late teens-early 20s, but developed a huge distaste for him in my mid-20s. I'm not even sure what happened, I just stopped being able to stomach him at some point.
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On topic: I'll second The Wheel of Time for a suggestion. The beginning of SoT is rather ... inspired by the beginning of WoT. They go in different directions though.

Someone mentioned Jim Butcher being on the Literature Map. I haven't read the Codex Alera series, but I do enjoy The Dresden Files (though they are not high/traditional fantasy, they are fun).
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I thought you were pretty clear.

Someone mentioned Jim Butcher being on the Literature Map. I haven't read the Codex Alera series, but I do enjoy The Dresden Files (though they are not high/traditional fantasy, they are fun).
I've read the Dresden Files and really liked them a lot. Haven't read the Codex Alera series, but it is on my to-read list. I really like Butcher's writing style, and that he writes characters I care about - still reeling over the fate of some of the his characters, in fact.

What drew me to both Dresden Files and The Sword of Truth were their TV incarnations. I liked the Dresden Files and Legend of the Seeker, but I loved Butchers books even more than the series, though it is a little tough watching Arrow now whenever "Dresden" appears.
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