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Old 02-04-2013, 03:48 AM   #16
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Jetzt bekomme ich schon ein schlechtes Gewissen.. Der hat schon interessante Bücher im Sortiment, so beschränkt wie er sich in diesem Gespräch präsentiert hat kann er gar nicht sein.

Vielleicht hat er sich mit dem Thema noch gar nicht beschäftigt und irgendwo am Rande einer Tagung einfach nur erzählt was ihm so durch den Kopf geht.

Falls Buchhändler in das Geschäft mit Digitaler Literatur einsteigen wollen (und das ist etwas was ich momentan gar nicht empfehlen würde, denn ich sehe keinen Grund für einen Privatkunden, sich ein Digitales Buchmanuskript zu kaufen) dann hätte ich momentan nur den Ratschlag, es wirklich anders zu machen als Amazon.

Und das bedeutet in erster Linie: Handverlesene Qualitätsprodukte statt blödem Spam, und die Wahrung der Errungenschaften der Aufklärung (wie beispielsweise: Privatsphäre und Lektürefreiheit).

Und vor allen Dingen hätte ich die Empfehlung an den Buchhandel, keinen überflüssigen Druck auf langjährige Kunden auszüben, sondern den Druck stattdessen an die Verlage weiterzurreichen. Denn es ist deren Job attraktive Produkte zu entwickeln. Es muss nicht immer bloss ein Buch sein, die meisten haben davon schon ein paar hundert oder tausend. Da muss man sich eben etwas einfallen lassen..
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Ja, du hast irgendwo weiter oben von der Gedankenlosigkeit des Herrn Kohl gesprochen. Ich denke das trifft es am besten. Er ist nicht der Erzschurke, der die totale Kundenkontrolle will - aber seine Ideen führen dennoch in die Richtung.

Man muss ihm tatsächlich zugute halten, dass die Startseite seines Shops mir nicht - wie praktisch alle anderen - als erstes 50 Tomes of Mommy Porn aufzuschwätzen versucht, sondern tatsächlich zu recht interessanten Themenschwerpunkten weiterleitet.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #18
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Zu dieser Diskussion gibt es nun noch eine schöne Ergänzung. Und zwar haben sie beim Buchreport-Magazin eine sehr gebildete (und gutaussehende) Mitarbeiterin von der man zuvor gar nichts wusste, und die erklärt den Jungs nun, wie das wirklich geht..

11. Februar 2013 - Lucy Mindnich: Vergesst Amazon!

Ihre Anregungen gefallen mir ganz gut; insbesondere der letzte Satz ihres Beitrags verdient Beachtung, denn damit erfüllt sie den Anspruch, an dem der Gesprächsparter des vorangegangenen Gesprächs gescheitert ist.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:19 PM   #19
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Leere Worte.

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Old 02-13-2013, 01:56 PM   #21
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Heute Abend gibt es einen Bericht in der ARD zu den Arbeitsbedingungen bei Amazon.

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:01 PM   #22
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Den Trailer dazu kann man sich jetzt schon anschauen.

Ich bin schon ganz gespannt. Das schaut gut aus.

Ausgeliefert! Leiharbeiter bei Amazon.
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Old 02-13-2013, 04:29 PM   #23
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Falls man gerade ganz nervös im der Wohnung umherläuft und auf die ARD-Reportage Amazon: Angeworben - Überwacht - Ausgeliefert wartet: Es gibt noch einen aktuellen F.A.Z.-Artikel, der sich ebenfalls kritisch mit Amazon beschäftigt.

Leider wirft der Autor Ebooks und Amazon in den selben Topf; und es gibt auch Amazon-kritische Buchhändler und Leser, die sich selber gegen die dt. Buchpreisbindung aussprechen, was dem Autor offensichtlich nicht bekannt ist. Aber dennoch wird man den Artikel vielleicht mit Interesse lesen können.

Zum Fernsehfilm gleich erwarte ich natürlich Augenzeugenberichte..

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Der Umstand allein, dass es in Gestalt der amerikanischen Internetfirma mit steuerbegünstigtem Sitz in Luxemburg einen mächtigen Distributor gibt, ist es noch nicht, der den Buchhandlungen das Leben schwermacht. Eher schon, dass mit dem Aufkauf der wichtigen Antiquariatsportale (ZVAB und ABEBOOKS) und der Einbindung antiquarischer „webshops“ Amazon seinem strategischen Ziel, die Buchpreisbindung zu kippen, immer näher kommt ...
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:19 AM   #24
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Ich kann nur sagen, es ist gruselig, was Amazon da macht.

Ich hätte jetzt gerne einen Link zur ARD Mediathek gesetzt, aber der Bericht ist offenbar nicht in dieser zu finden.
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Und ich dachte Sklaverei wäre inzwischen verboten.

Obwohl Sklaven es wahrscheinlich besser hatten, die waren wenigstens wertvolles Eigentum.
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Ich habe mir während des Beitrags Notizen gemacht. Ich war sehr aufgebracht. Das muss man sich mal vorstellen: Eine Krankenschwester, ein Ingenieur, eine Kunstlehrerin werden mit falschen Versprechungen nach Deutschland gelockt, träumen davon die deutsche Sprache und das Land kennenzulernen, und landen dann in solch einem Arbeitslager mit paramilitärischem Wachdienst. Nur unter Polizeischutz können die Reporter nach ihrer Enttarnung das Hotel wieder verlassen..

Es liegt bereits ein F.A.Z. Review zum Film vor.

Wenn der Film in der ARD-Mediathek verfügbar ist, dann sollte das noch jemand mitteilen. Denn es kommt ja immer wieder die Rede auf den vorzüglichen Kundenservice den Amazon leistet - und dann kann man den Leuten mal zeigen, wie das so funktioniert mit dem Kundenservice. Wenn ich keine Ladenmiete, keine Verkäufergehälter und kaum Steuern zahle, dann werde ich es wohl noch gerade schaffen, ein paar Callcenter-Mitarbeiterinnen auf nett zu dressieren. Und wie man so etwas schafft, das zeigt der Film..
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Da isser wohl http://www.ardmediathek.de/das-erste...entId=13402260
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Ihr seid spitze!

Dann kann man vielleicht noch Berichte und Reviews seriöser Zeitungen und Zeitschriften sammeln. Ich schaue nachher mal. Da wird ja nun wohl einiges kommen.

Ich glaube so etwas hat Amazon noch nie erlebt. Sie sitzen da nun in ihrem Raumschiff und schauen doof aus der Wäsche. Huch, ertappt. So ist das eben wenn man sich mit Dichtern und Denkern anlegt. Die können nun ihren Plan zur Weltherrschaft erst einmal überdenken..
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Na, da kommt ja richtig Freude auf. Und ich glaube nicht, dass Amazon das groß juckt. Ist doch alles legal im Land der Dichter und Denker (vielleicht bis auf die eventuelle Unterschlagung von Sozialabgaben). Ist doch schön, dass die Schröderregierung damals den Reformstau so erfolgreich aufgelöst hat - überall sind sie jetzt arbeitslos, weil ihre Strukturen so verkrustet sind, jetzt können sie alle hierher kommen und uns dankbar sein, dass wir sie noch arbeiten lassen.

Aber der Standort Deutschland ist ja immer noch in Gefahr. Da gibt es doch bestimmt noch überkommene Besitzstände abzubauen - wieso dürfen da diese Nervensägen von ver.di überhaupt noch mitreden? Denen sollte man mal die freundlichen Security-Hooligans vorbeischicken.

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