04-20-2009, 10:33 AM | #16 |
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04-20-2009, 10:47 AM | #17 | |
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After that sale has taken place, the "first sale" rule comes into play. A very brief (and probably over-simplified) version of this rule is that although a seller may choose to use relatively arbitrary conditions when deciding whether or not to sell to you, they cannot impose restrictions on your use of the product after the sale. Thus, they can sell only in a limited geographic region, but they cannot restrict you from shipping elsewhere post-sale. So, with dead-tree books the locus of the sale is the warehouse. As long as the warehouse is in the correct geographic region, the geographic conditions have been met. Shipping after that is beyond the control of the publisher (or author/agent/copyright-owner/whatever). The thing that strikes me as being weird is the idea that the locus of sale for an internet transaction is the customer's computer/device! Xenophon |
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04-20-2009, 10:58 AM | #18 |
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Well, with the 30% rebate on Fantasy books, it bothered me today !
I made a filter on Fantasy books, and went along the list, and 75% of my choices were geographically restricted ! I finished with the purchase of n°2 of a trilogy, and went to Mobipocket site to purchase n°1 and 3 (of course more expensive on this site, but all 3 were in proportion !) I did this for one series, I won't for more ! So these restrictions, for a impulsive/compulsive like me, are a good one for my purse, but a bad one for Fictionwise ! |
04-20-2009, 11:02 AM | #19 |
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Not even that. It seems it's the bank that issued the credit card (!). From what I've read here, if I'm Spanish, have a French credit card, live in the UK and try to buy from a US e-store, they'll assume they are selling in France.
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04-20-2009, 03:07 PM | #21 |
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65% of the books on my eReader wishlist are no longer available to me. Any suggestions on companies that offer ebooks without such restrictions, with a reader available for Palm?
I really hope Fictionwise can set up additional storefronts to circumvent the restrictions and still offer competitive prices. Last edited by T3_reader; 04-20-2009 at 03:14 PM. |
04-20-2009, 03:42 PM | #22 | |
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I hope the address change at fictionwise works for using paypal as well so I can get the 100% rebate thing for the lord of the rings trilogy. Only being able to use micropay is going to make me use more money if I'm not careful |
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04-20-2009, 03:58 PM | #23 | |
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I haven't had any problems buying from fictionwise with paypal.
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04-20-2009, 03:59 PM | #24 |
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Revise your Fictionwise address to a US address and pay with PayPal. You can fund your PayPal from your credit card. I have a friend that uses this method and she has had no problems to date.
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04-21-2009, 11:29 PM | #28 | |
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Want to buy some prime Florida island real estate, do you? Or sell Missouri riverland flood insurance? If he is implying there is stuff in copyright acts that says 'you may not sell ebooks to people in other countries', I've read ours, that is complete crap. |
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05-01-2009, 02:08 AM | #30 |
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It doesn't work for me :-( They look at my credit card billing address (Sri Lanka) whether or not I'm using it. Has anyone had any success buying via PayPal?
Blithering idiots. Just for that, so annoyed am I, the $100 that was going their way is now headed right at Baen. |
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