iSilo 4.0 & iSiloX/C Released

sUnShInE · 10-16-2003, 08:24 AM

iSilo 4.0 has been released. Get it here.

Get iSiloX and/or iSiloXC here.

Someone get Darren a beverage puleez!

Griff · 10-18-2003, 01:49 PM

What would you consider the killer features that would prompt someone to upgrade? I've read the whatsnew stuff and it's a bit lengthy and doesn't pinpoint for me what is so cool.

I know fonts would probably be one big feature improvement, but I really don't see an issue with how my documents are displayed. Perhaps my existing FontHack is making everything pretty for me.

I was planning to upgrade for sure if landscape mode was implemented, but it wasn't. So, what's great in the new version that should have everyone paying for an upgrade?

TadW · 10-19-2003, 07:49 AM

Griff, I agree with you somewhat that the jump from 3.x to 4.0 seems too high for the new functionality being offered right now. However, keep in mind that we are talking of the beginning of 4.x, and that iSilo/X has a good track record for making regular updates and bringing out new features.

To answer your question, in my eyes the new lossy compression on images is very helpful - and the faster your handheld, the less noticeable this extra bit of compression becomes.

Griff · 10-19-2003, 10:37 AM

I agree that they do tend to add new features, but I don't feel comfortable paying for them in advance. I bought my license a month before the for-pay upgrade was announced and that already soured me a bit on the upgrade. From the sounds of it, there's isn't much in there that would get me to upgrade at the moment, I'll wait for more features.

Have you noticed a large reduction in your filesizes when using lossy compression for channels that contain pictures? If so, which handheld do you use?

I'm a bit concerned that you mention the faster the handheld bit. I'm still on a NR70v and really don't want to upgrade only to notice a speed hit. Sounds like I should skip this upgrade and wait for the next.

Thanks for your reply.

FredP · 10-19-2003, 05:11 PM

Is anybody running into any problems with iSilo 4.0?

Alexander Turcic · 10-20-2003, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griff

Have you noticed a large reduction in your filesizes when using lossy compression for channels that contain pictures? If so, which handheld do you use?

I'm a bit concerned that you mention the faster the handheld bit. I'm still on a NR70v and really don't want to upgrade only to notice a speed hit. Sounds like I should skip this upgrade and wait for the next.

Thanks for your reply.

Hey Griff! The lossy compression is one of my favorite new additions as well. Filesize can be reduced a lot depending on how many pictures your source contains (for instance, Slate was reduced by more than 1/2).

The lossy compression ratio itself does not depend on your handheld speed. Only the decompression later in the iSilo viewer is less noticeable the faster your handheld processor. That said, your Clie NR70v should be more than sufficient to display the images smoothly. I still have an old 33Mhz N760C (overclocked to 42Mhz, I admit), and although the lossy compression is noticeable, it is not hurting the flow of my reading.

On upgrades: I just checked iSilo web page and it does not seem that you are restricted to a time period for upgrading your 3.x license. So why don't you wait with the 4.x development until you find a feature useful enough to upgrade?

Griff · 10-20-2003, 12:14 PM

Thanks for the info Alexander...I'm glad that it doesn't seem that noticeable on your handheld, and therefore wouldn't on mine.

I will wait to see what else comes, if something else comes. I saw 4 came out the other day and I'm not sure if there will be more development or not...just have to wait and see.

Alexander Turcic · 10-20-2003, 12:27 PM

From my experience, the release cycle of iSilo looks like this:
V4.x b1: major release update with new features
V4.x b2:
V4.x bx: b2...bx contain fixes for the new features - but no additionally new features are added until final is out

This is why you don't see any other new features in iSilo V4.0 Final other than those that were introduced in V4.0 Beta 1. Now, that iSilo V4.0 is final, you can expect the next beta to contain new, yet unseen features.

Hope I made this somewhat clear

Zire · 10-20-2003, 02:09 PM

Where do I get fonts for isilo 4.0?

Griff · 10-20-2003, 03:07 PM

Ahh, ok, that makes sense. I have to admit the release notes through the beta were a bit different than I am used to...thanks for clearing that up for me.

I'll look for the new betas of 4.1 or whatever it'll be called...hopefully there'll be something in there I need.

10-16-2003, 08:24 AM	#1
sUnShInE Drama Queen Posts: 784 Karma: 11712 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: United States Device: Palm Tungsten T\|T3	iSilo 4.0 & iSiloX/C Released iSilo 4.0 has been released. Get it here. Get iSiloX and/or iSiloXC here. Someone get Darren a beverage puleez!

10-19-2003, 05:11 PM	#5
FredP Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2003 Device: Clie SJ20/U	Any problems? Is anybody running into any problems with iSilo 4.0?

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10-18-2003, 01:49 PM	#2
Griff Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX Device: Clie NR70v	What would you consider the killer features that would prompt someone to upgrade? I've read the whatsnew stuff and it's a bit lengthy and doesn't pinpoint for me what is so cool. I know fonts would probably be one big feature improvement, but I really don't see an issue with how my documents are displayed. Perhaps my existing FontHack is making everything pretty for me. I was planning to upgrade for sure if landscape mode was implemented, but it wasn't. So, what's great in the new version that should have everyone paying for an upgrade?

10-19-2003, 07:49 AM	#3
TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	Griff, I agree with you somewhat that the jump from 3.x to 4.0 seems too high for the new functionality being offered right now. However, keep in mind that we are talking of the beginning of 4.x, and that iSilo/X has a good track record for making regular updates and bringing out new features. To answer your question, in my eyes the new lossy compression on images is very helpful - and the faster your handheld, the less noticeable this extra bit of compression becomes.

10-19-2003, 10:37 AM	#4
Griff Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX Device: Clie NR70v	I agree that they do tend to add new features, but I don't feel comfortable paying for them in advance. I bought my license a month before the for-pay upgrade was announced and that already soured me a bit on the upgrade. From the sounds of it, there's isn't much in there that would get me to upgrade at the moment, I'll wait for more features. Have you noticed a large reduction in your filesizes when using lossy compression for channels that contain pictures? If so, which handheld do you use? I'm a bit concerned that you mention the faster the handheld bit. I'm still on a NR70v and really don't want to upgrade only to notice a speed hit. Sounds like I should skip this upgrade and wait for the next. Thanks for your reply.

10-20-2003, 12:14 PM	#7
Griff Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX Device: Clie NR70v	Thanks for the info Alexander...I'm glad that it doesn't seem that noticeable on your handheld, and therefore wouldn't on mine. I will wait to see what else comes, if something else comes. I saw 4 came out the other day and I'm not sure if there will be more development or not...just have to wait and see.

10-20-2003, 12:27 PM	#8
Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,170 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	From my experience, the release cycle of iSilo looks like this: V4.x b1: major release update with new features V4.x b2: V4.x bx: b2...bx contain fixes for the new features - but no additionally new features are added until final is out This is why you don't see any other new features in iSilo V4.0 Final other than those that were introduced in V4.0 Beta 1. Now, that iSilo V4.0 is final, you can expect the next beta to contain new, yet unseen features. Hope I made this somewhat clear

10-20-2003, 02:09 PM	#9
Zire Fanatic Posts: 522 Karma: 14050 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Astoria, NY Device: Zire 71	Where do I get fonts for isilo 4.0?

10-20-2003, 03:07 PM	#10
Griff Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 28 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX Device: Clie NR70v	Ahh, ok, that makes sense. I have to admit the release notes through the beta were a bit different than I am used to...thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll look for the new betas of 4.1 or whatever it'll be called...hopefully there'll be something in there I need.

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