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I understand what you mean about the logins being painful for users, but I think you might be overestimating it. Users don't really have to log in each and every time to sites anymore. They can use their browsers' autologin function to do that. There are a certain number of users who won't want to save their logins, but, because people are lazy, I don't think that will be the majority. |
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They want the advertising hits of a free service, but they want the revenue of a subscription service. That's why the paywall is intentionally more like swiss-cheese. |
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Don't forget that the NYT digital subscriptions extend to iPhone & iPad apps as well. Since buying my iPhone almost two years ago, I read the NYT iPhone app daily -- in the subway, while waiting at the doctor's, sometimes in bed before turning off the light etc. It's far superior to the mobile version of their website.
I believe that the paywall won't be as easy to ignore on these devices since there is no article limit but rather only the Top News section will be free while all the rest will be paywalled. I'm ambivalent about this; $15 for something that used to be free is a lot; on the other hand I believe that some people don't realize what a great newspaper the Times really is. Sure, if you're a US conservative, it's probably not your cup of tea, but comparing them to other quality newspapers around the world, I'm still awestruck by some of the articles they do; the piece on the last hours on the Deepwater Horizon (which was bought by a Hollywood studio, not that that really means anything), for example. Neither the UK's "The Guardian" nor Austria's "Der Standard" (Austria is where I live and "Der Standard" is considered to be among its best newspapers), in my opinion, come close to the sort of in-depth reporting where sometimes months of work go into one single, albeit long article. So, while I did not install yesterday's update to the iPhone NYT app just to see if the old one will continue working after March 28th, I'll probably end up paying the $15. I'd like the NYT to stay. I'll bet the NYT hopes that other smartphone & tablet users will do likewise. Last edited by MattW; 03-27-2011 at 03:10 AM. |
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The Wall Street Journal has three tiers: free (shared links, some content free), paid at abt $2/wk, and premium (higher sub fee with access to expanded background content). The middle ground is very comprehensive and reasonably affordable -- half the New York Times fee. Having lived with the middle option for almost a year I can say it meets my needs. I can see something like that working for New York Times.
What I can't figure out is the Amazon rates: $15/mth for the Times on a Kindle for US residents; $28 for Canadian "delivery". Over 3G, I get there might be a premium; but with so many more people on wifi ... it's certainly a deal breaker for me. |
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http://www.stinkyjournalism.org/edit...il.php?id=1087 The grey lady ain't what she used to be like back in the days of the pentagon papers. For a recent example look at the withholding of information to the public on Raymond Davis, who was arrested in Pakistan: the NYT deliberately withheld what they knew to be the case, that Davis was in fact CIA, and produced article after article omitting that fact and misleading the public. All this at the US governments request! It wasn't until the Guardian reported it that they admitted all this. http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/gl...2011/02/21/nyt Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting on NYT: http://www.fair.org/blog/category/ne.../newyorktimes/ Last edited by bZkindle; 03-27-2011 at 03:33 AM. |
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It is difficult to defend news reporting objectively. There are times when information is not appropriate to release to the public due to various aspects of international relations or security clearances. WikiLeaks is a good example, and it is not always in the best public interest to print everything you know. We have to trust someone with that information. Such decisions are a huge responsibility for any newspaper both due to security and freedom of information. It's seldom one or the other.
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