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Old 09-19-2014, 03:33 PM   #31
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The SIRIKTWOSOB: Slightly Improved and re-introduced Kindle Touch without Sound or Buttons.
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:58 PM   #32
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:59 PM   #33
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Let's go paleontological and call it the K-T Boundary
kt-2=kindle touch minus two (features)
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:47 PM   #34
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I wish they had kept the K4nt black and just dropped the price on it. Honestly, I love mine, I have no real reason to upgrade. Yes, the Voyage is all shiny and new, but the K4nt is just a work horse. It does everything I need it to do, very comfortable to hold, doesn't hurt my thumb. It kind of bothers me that I now have to pay $200 to get buttons.
I hope I can find one cheap as places start dumping them. If anyone sees them cheap, let me know.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:02 PM   #35
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Maybe kindles will be cheaper during Black Friday sales?
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:06 PM   #36
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:28 PM   #37
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I wish they had kept the K4nt black and just dropped the price on it. Honestly, I love mine, I have no real reason to upgrade. Yes, the Voyage is all shiny and new, but the K4nt is just a work horse. It does everything I need it to do, very comfortable to hold, doesn't hurt my thumb. It kind of bothers me that I now have to pay $200 to get buttons.
I hope I can find one cheap as places start dumping them. If anyone sees them cheap, let me know.
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I think the K4NT or K4 Black or whatever its called has the best contrast of any eInk screen I've ever seen.
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Old 09-19-2014, 08:22 PM   #38
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From Amazon.com...

It's quite possible that there is no such thing as an 800x600 Carta eInk screen. Besides, that would raise the price (IMHO).
Amazon.com changed the specs. On all the other Amazon pages it still says Carta.

I contacted the Amazon customer service and this is the reply I got:

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Hello,

I've checked the details on the various website you have mentioned and see that issue for new Kindle eink is appearing under technical details.

Thank you for letting us know of this flaw, please be assured that we will rectify the problem as soon as possible.

As always, please feel free to contact us should you have future suggestions, questions or comments. We have team of experts who takes into consideration each and every feedback of our customers and brings them into practice.

If you need any further assistance please write back to us using the link below,

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We really appreciate you raising this concern.

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Old 09-20-2014, 06:58 AM   #39
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There are no added layers on the screen. It's using IR touch. You can tell by the fact that the screen is not flush with the bezel.
Nonsense, Jon. Numerous readers have raised bezels and capacitive touch screens (the PW2, to name but one example). I'm not saying that this new device doesn't have an IR touch screen, but the fact that the bezel is raised assuredly does not automatically imply an IR touch screen.
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Old 09-20-2014, 08:08 AM   #40
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My nontouch kindle has a raised bezel
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:48 AM   #41
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I have a nook tablet with a raised bezel. It absolutely has a capacitive touch screen.

Unless it's stated somewhere in the specs, I don't know how people can state what touch tech is is using .
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:00 AM   #42
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Or if they have physical access to the device in question
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:29 AM   #43
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Nonsense, Jon. Numerous readers have raised bezels and capacitive touch screens (the PW2, to name but one example). I'm not saying that this new device doesn't have an IR touch screen, but the fact that the bezel is raised assuredly does not automatically imply an IR touch screen.
I keep hearing IR Touchscreen here in the MR forum threads, but I cannot see anything on Amazon that refers to it. I'm curious where that bit of information came from, or whether it is merely speculation on someone's part that got interpreted by others as fact. The new Kindle 2014 does seem to have a deeper bezel than most newer readers as seen in this Amazon image on their USA website. From the Sony readers I owned that were IR touchscreens, there was a deep bezel too. Much deeper than the bezels on the K3, PWs, etc. But this is at best circumstantial evidence and certainly not conclusive. I'm guessing that one of the early reviewers mentioned IR touchscreen, whether factual or not, and thus it became accepted as fact.

ETA: Oops, the above link is to a popup window on an Amazon page, but it doesn't seem to work in Firefox, it just goes to the parent window. So select the "See more..." link on that page at:

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Touchscreen display, enhanced software, twice the storage… See more

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Or you can see the image here below. I attached a cropped screen capture of it. But like I said, it looks like a deep bezel that MIGHT indicate an IR touchscreen, but as of yet I can find no conclusive information on same anywhere on Amazon or the internet.
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Or you can see the image here below. I attached a cropped screen capture of it. But like I said, it looks like a deep bezel that MIGHT indicate an IR touchscreen, but as of yet I can find no conclusive information on same anywhere on Amazon or the internet.
I don't think this is really conclusive, but C/Net is claiming that the Kindle (2014, Touch 2) uses IR sensors ..

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New budget Kindle
For $79, you can pick up the new Kindle (2014), which replaces the previous model that didn't have a touchscreen. It's worth noting, however, that the entry-level Kindle's touchscreen isn't the same as the capacitive touchscreens of the Paperwhite and Voyage. It's the older, IR-based touchscreen (IR sensors are embedded in the bezel).
http://www.cnet.com/products/amazon-kindle-voyage/
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