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I don't get it. |
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MobiPocket has international distribution rights and Sony ConnStore doesn't. It's pretty straightforward, actually.
The distribution rights that Mobi does or doesn't have has no effect on the distribution rights that Sony does or doesn't have. |
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Does Mobipocket actually have such rights? If such rights are available, then why didn't Sony acquire them? Are they mentally deficient?
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Think it through for a bit, Nate the great: The rights are negotiated, usually from the publisher and/or other distributors, I suppose. Sony's mental acuity, or lack thereof, likely has less to do with it than with whether those who hold the international distribution rights are at liberty to negotiate them (as they may not be if they were, say, locked into some sort of exclusive contract or some such), and their willingness to negotiate an agreement with Sony. Further complicating the matter is that the distribution rights will be held by multiple (potentially a big multiple) entities. It's a simple concept, yes, but like so many legal things, the execution is ... not so simple. Please note that I have no detailed knowledge of the actual processes involved, so that's mostly guesswork -- considered guesswork, but still guesswork. |
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It gets even worse when you go back a step before the publisher/distributor agreements. First, there's the negotiation between the author and the publisher. In simple deals, the author sells, say, First North American print rights to the publisher along with a bundle of ancillary rights like world publishing rights and e-rights. Those ancillary rights are usually transferable, and publishers sell them all the time. Scholastic, for example, bought the US rights to the Harry Potter books. Publishers often buy paperback rights, but sell them down the road to a house that is better equipped to handle them. Insane as it seems, e-rights are also being sold on a regional basis these days. Also, said rights might be sold exclusively or non-exclusively. Now that authors and their agents are getting more savvy, it's not uncommon with hot properties for an agent to sell all the various rights separately; First North American rights to this publisher, First European rights to that one, etc. Or an author may choose to retain the e-rights and use them for promotion, as long as it doesn't conflict with any non-compete clauses included in the other rights sales. It can get very messy. |
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I think I understand the difference. Mobipocket can sell books anywhere because they are not the exclusive publisher of their format in any market (besides possibly France). Any one can publish in their format. Fictionwise, for example, relies on Mibipocket DRM servers, but likely negotiated not with Mobipocket but with the various publishers, agents, authors for the right to sell in the US market.
Sony, on the other hand, is the exclusive publisher of its' format. |
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You've almost got it, Nate, I don't believe that the format matters one whit, but otherwise you're pretty much there.
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Legally I can buy a print book from what country I want whatever the "US rights" of the respective book. And not only that, I can make a business out of that, buy in bulk from country x and resell here in the USA. E-books status is unclear, but as far as I know right now they fall under the software category so their sale can be restricted territorially. |
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Electronic content, on the other hand, has no physical limiting factor. It makes regional rights almost meaningless. For all intents and purposes, New York to Beijing is the same as New York to Boston. The nature of the technology creates situations where the consumer just has to state "I am in country X" to gain access to regionally restricted content (as with the Sony Reader). The movie industry had to gain or force the collusion of DVD player manufacturers to enforce regional restrictions. That added a little bit of the PITA factor back in. Let's hope the e-book industry never goes down that road. |
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It could also just be a case of the legal environment the 2 companies operate in. The laws may not allow restrictive trade practises in France.
It always amazes me the a country like the US which seems to be based o nthe idea of freedom seems to have one of the most restrictive economies |
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