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It turns out that a bright, young, clear thinking staffer posted it without getting approval. He posted a number of comments on the reddit article. He claims to want to start a discussion with the aim to achieve a sensible copyright system. I hope he succeeds. |
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Doesn't the same reasoning apply to the multiple lengthening of copyright terms in the US during the previous century?
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11-20-2012, 03:47 PM | #36 | |
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Take music. At the moment if I hear a song on the radio or a cd, I can play my own version of that song (cover) and go sell it on iTunes (assuming I was good enough, which I assure you I am not ) To do the above legally, I just need to inform the artist I'm covering their song and using a mandatory mechanical license, which they cannot refuse. Then I pay them something like 9 cents per copy I sell* However, the internet has brought about amateurs wanting to record themselves and let the world here them _for free_. Amateurs from the beginners to quite accomplished musicians who want to record their playing or singing and pop it on youtube with no commercial motives. That's where the problems begin. Under existing copyright laws, each view regardless of the fact you're giving it away, would require a payment of the mechanical license rate, but worse than that, because you've video'd your performance you also need a sync license and those cannot be forcefully obtained at a fixed price. Instead you'll find artists demanding 5-15 thousand dollars for a sync license. People are just ignoring those laws and posting their non commercial playing on youtube anyway. Google is trying to give the copyright holders ad revenue if they flag such content rather than take it down, but neither of these options is a good one imo. Sync licenses should be obtainable in a similar forceable way as mechanical licenses if the video is to go with a cover and ideally no fees should be required if the result is freely distributed and not used in a commercial way. Now, when it comes to taking an existing piece of music and using it as a backing track, again if it's non-commercial, I think there should be a way to either license the usage for free or a small amount. If the usage is in any way commercial such as sold or used for promotional purposes, then you pay the asking price and recoup it through the course of business or find other music. I don't have a solution, but I do think copyright in general needs revisiting and the exceptions for when you can/cannot legally do something need revising to account for ways the public would like to use material that would not have adverse impact on the content producers. tl;dr it's legally more viable for me to record my own version of a popular song and sell it on itunes than it is for me to record myself practicing a popular song and show it off to people for free on youtube. Seems backwards. * I'm not 100% on the exact amounts of payment but ball park that's good enough for this example. ** I'm not a lawyer so this entire post could be a total fabrication, besides which it's not written on paper so isn't real and if it's isn't real advise then I didn't really give it so no attempt to blame me if it's totally wrong Last edited by JoeD; 11-20-2012 at 03:55 PM. |
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Legally more viable, but functionally not. If you don't have the youtube channel, then you won't get many sales. It's all about getting attention and advertising, and the RIAA wants to choke that off from anyone who hasn't signed a record deal.
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Clearly it's not silly from an artist pov, the former gets them no money, the latter gets them at least mechanical license payments. However, when it's unlikely that the free version will harm artists considering they're covers and not non-commercial/amateur, I think the laws around that need revising. If anything, the more the public cover a song on youtube the more that song is heard and the more likely people will want to buy the original version. Maybe that's just my experience and not a general trend though Either way, the internet is causing some laws that previously did make sense to be problematic. That's not to say the original laws are bad or wrong, just that they're perhaps in need of tweaking. Last edited by JoeD; 11-20-2012 at 04:10 PM. |
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White House petition
There is now a petition to the White House to consider the points made in the article. (registration required)
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I'd add "and stockholders," but most stocks haven't paid dividends since the dotcom bubble in the '90s. Dividend is still as nasty a thing to say as the N-bomb in some financial circles. |
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Googling, I can't find a modern example of anyone having their major party registration revoked. If the GOP had tried to do this, it would be all over the internet. |
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