01-23-2017, 05:42 AM | #61 | |
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For German exists a supplement dictionary: 81,000 technical terms from mathematics, physics, chemistry, life sciences, IT, technology, industry, geosciences Maybe there exist one for your language... Deutsches Fachspezifisches Ergänzungswörterbuch German Specialist Supplemental Dictionary | Apache OpenOffice Extensions http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/...tal-dictionary |
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01-23-2017, 08:09 AM | #63 |
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The following is a typical German Keyboard (T1):
You can hover with the mouse over the keys. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tastat...C3.96sterreich At the left side of the backspace key you can see (`) Gravis (´) Akute (’) The (typographically correct) Apostroph is not accessible with a key, you have to type ALT+0146 (see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostr...afisch_korrekt) At the left side of the return key (together with #): (') Apostroph (typographically incorrect/replacement character) (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostr...rafisch_falsch) So a typically German (like me) takes this (') (typographically incorrect) Apostroph or (´) Akute (which is wrong) The Gernan Duden (Dictionary of the German language) uses the (typographically incorrect) (') Apostroph in the article about Apostroph: http://www.duden.de/sprachwissen/rec...geln/apostroph So i checked this with the only spellchecker of Duden: Duden | Rechtschreibprüfung Online Betaversion http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibpruefung-online (´) akute U+00B4: Halt´s Maul! Macht´s gut! Da gab´s keinen! Ich hab´s! Wie geht´s! (’) Apostroph (typographically correct) U+2019 [Alt+0146:]; ’ Halt’s Maul! Macht’s gut! Da gab’s keinen! Ich hab’s! Wie geht’s! (') replacement character for apostroph U+0027; ' (since HTML 5) Halt's Maul! Macht's gut! Da gab's keinen! Ich hab's! Wie geht's! As you can see the text is correct using the acute symbol and using a real apostrophe gives a misspelled word: So they do it wrong! I checked this again with Sigil and the German Hunspell dictionary. It does the same mistake. Additional I used the HTML-Entities ' ’ but they are converted to the real characters during saving. This is the new version of the testcase epub: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/at...1&d=1485176688 What can i do to make the differences between the acute and the tweo versions of apostroph visible in the book views of Sigil? Last edited by AnselmD; 01-23-2017 at 08:17 AM. |
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Therefore in the written language I prefer using an apostrophe (as omit character) to make it visible: here is something missing. Wie geht’s?! Wie geht's?! |
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Times New Roman: Charis Sil: Now i can see i did some mistake adding Wie geht’s? to the test book, so again: testcase.epub: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/at...1&d=1485182080 |
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01-23-2017, 10:22 AM | #67 |
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This German Article explains, if an apostrophe with the new German spelling rules, has to be set or not. There are four possibilities explained: 1) may be used (kann benutzt/gesetzt werden), 2) should not be used any more (sollte nicht mehr benutzt werden), 3) must not be used (nicht benutzt werden darf), 4) must be used (muss benutzt werden) Zwiebelfisch-Abc: Der Gebrauch des Apostrophs im Überblick - SPIEGEL ONLINE http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/zwiebel...-a-283781.html |
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@AnselmD: BTW, my LanguageTool Sigil plugin, will flag straight apostrophes and acute accents. For example, you'll get the following message for the first error in line 11:
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01-23-2017, 10:41 AM | #69 | |
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01-23-2017, 10:54 AM | #70 |
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FWIW,
I looked at the OLDSPELL dictionary and it appears to be better at handling at least some of the contractions: Code:
grep \' *.aff TRY esijanrtolcdugmphbyfvkwqxzäüößáéêàâñESIJANRTOLCDUGMPHBYFVKWQXZÄÜÖÉ-.' WORDCHARS ß-.'’ ICONV ’ ' OCONV ' ’ There is still no suffix rule (SFX) assigned in the .aff file but there are actual words in the dictionary that include an apostrophe. Code:
grep \' *.dic d'hondtsch/A geht's gibt's hat's Horsd'oeuvre/Sm horsd'oeuvre/Sozm ist's Ku'damm/ST man's wenn's wird's Xi'an/S So given you have found an encoding error in your own testcase and given you use the OLDSPELL dictioanry, you should see that "geht's" comes back as spell correctly with both the smart and dumb versions. KevinH |
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Btw, the "correctly" spelled words with the acute symbol are a bad example. If i take other special symbols acute symbol, they words are also correct. |
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01-23-2017, 11:29 AM | #72 |
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Yes, those words are not in the OLDSPELL dictionary. As I said, if someone can generate a list of the most commonly used words in German with contractions, I can at least add them to our current German dictionary and to the OLDSPELL one as well.
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Can i copy the (complete) error message to the clipboard. If there are suggestions i would like to copy them and not to type them again with a false apostrophe ;-) I think the default workflow is: 1) correct spelling errors 2) test for grammar (with the language tool) And if the spelling tool seems to make mysterious things: use the language tool. Quote:
The following one seems to be easy: This is a false positive (mach’s gut, macht’s gut, mach’s besser; mach es gut, macht es gut, mach es besser), the rule detects this falsely as plural (no apostrophe for plural), but is only an omitting apostrophe: Code:
<rulegroup id="PLURAL_APOSTROPH" name="AGB's (AGBs) etc."> <antipattern> <token regexp="yes">King|Queen</token> <token regexp="yes">'|’|`|´|‘</token> <token>s</token> <token>College</token> </antipattern> <antipattern> <token>Queen</token> <token regexp="yes">'|’|`|´|‘</token> <token>s</token> <token>University</token> </antipattern> <rule> <!-- detected by GIRLS_DAY with better message --> <antipattern> <token regexp="yes">Girl|Boy</token> <token regexp="yes">'|’|`|´|‘</token> <token>s</token> <token>Day</token> </antipattern> <pattern> <or> <token>DVD</token> <token postag_regexp="yes" postag="SUB:.*"><exception>Halt</exception></token> </or> <token regexp="yes">'|’|`|´|‘</token> <token>s</token> </pattern> <message>Meinten Sie <suggestion>\1\3</suggestion> oder <suggestion>\1</suggestion>? Normalerweise wird im Deutschen vor einem Plural-s kein Apostroph gesetzt</message> <short>Normalerweise wird im Deutschen vor einem Plural-s kein Apostroph gesetzt</short> <example correction="AGBs|AGB">Es gelten die <marker>AGB`s</marker>.</example> <example correction="AGBs|AGB">Es gelten die <marker>AGB’s</marker>.</example> <example correction="Hits|Hit">Die Gruppe hatte viele <marker>Hit’s</marker>.</example> <!-- vgl. http://web.archive.org/web/20110214064020/http://www.duden.de/deutsche_sprache/sprachberatung/newsletter/archiv.php?id=54 --> <example>Der <marker>Girls’</marker> Day findet jährlich statt.</example> </rule> </rulegroup> Code:
<antipattern> <token regexp="yes">Mach|Macht</token> <token regexp="yes">'|’|`|´|‘</token> <token>s</token> </antipattern> |
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But you are not the first one in the chain, i am thinking about to contact the contributor of the dictionaries. If you think this is the better option, i can to that?! On the other hand, maybe it is easier to give it to you... Last edited by AnselmD; 01-23-2017 at 01:26 PM. |
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1. Click the message once. (The text should be displayed white on blue). 2. Press CTRL+C. 3. Select a text editor and press CTRL+V to paste the message. (You can't select individual words in the Validation window. This is a Qt limitation.) |
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