Next Sony reader: wish list - Page 6

HarryT · 05-24-2008, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

Maybe if I compared them side by side, I would notice the difference.
Otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about

I've attached an illustration which shows the difference.

Compare the letters "f", "a", and "g" in the italic font to that of the synthesised one - you'll see that the letters are formed in different ways and (to my mind) look a lot more attractive in the "genuine" italic font.

astra · 05-24-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by duckeedoug

A hold switch would be nice. The unit tends to switches pages when put into a bag with other items. Sony should integrate this hold into the power on/off switch.

The power button that both 500 and 505 have is the hold button. It function is not to turn off the reader. The reader is always on. When you use power button, you in a sense activate a hold button which prevents accidental use of buttons and clears a screen.

How your unit manages to turn pages when put in a bag I cannot imagine...

astra · 05-24-2008, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've attached an illustration which shows the difference.

Compare the letters "f", "a", and "g" in the italic font to that of the synthesised one - you'll see that the letters are formed in different ways and (to my mind) look a lot more attractive in the "genuine" italic font.

I see. Yes it looks nicer

I see the difference.

Thanks for the pic. I wanted to ask someone here to produce something like that but didn't want to bother anyone.

[EDIT] However, I have just made a quick trial:

Except "f" the rest os the letters looks OK

although not as good as true italics. In your example the difference is a lot more noticeable. Maybe it depends on base font and that's why I don't use Swiss because Times fonts present synthesised italics a lot better.

pilotbob · 05-24-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

How your unit manages to turn pages when put in a bag I cannot imagine...

IF you don't use the "hold" switch as you call it... it is pretty easy to push one of the 0-9 buttons along the bottom of the screen on the 500 since that is where you pick it up. These buttons jump in the book to the percentage based on the number.... so, if you press the 3 it just 30% into the book.

This used to happen to me and I thought the reader was forgetting the location. Once I realized what was happening I always used the "hold" switch before closing the cover I never had this problem again.

BOb

lovebeta · 05-24-2008, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I've attached an illustration which shows the difference.

Compare the letters "f", "a", and "g" in the italic font to that of the synthesised one - you'll see that the letters are formed in different ways and (to my mind) look a lot more attractive in the "genuine" italic font.

Harry - I remember that we discussed this issue and I am 1000% with you.

I think if Steve Jobs were to be the PM, this would definitely not happen... Geez. Sony should get some typographist on the team since they were designing a *book reader*.

astra · 05-24-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

IF you don't use the "hold" switch as you call it... it is pretty easy to push one of the 0-9 buttons along the bottom of the screen on the 500 since that is where you pick it up. These buttons jump in the book to the percentage based on the number.... so, if you press the 3 it just 30% into the book.

BOb

Sure. I just cannot imagine how one can put the reader into a bag without "switching it off"? I have never done it even by mistake. It applies to any gadget. I finish using it, I switch it off.

Valloric · 05-24-2008, 07:09 PM

Hm... I'm suprised no one mentioned "true" standby as a feature request for the next reader. As astra said, the standby we have is basically a hold button that blanks the screen too. The reader still consumes power.

I want the next reader to have a true standby mode that actually powers it off (and I'm not talking about a 3 min long boot up). I'm puzzled why they didn't do this for the current versions... just park everything in RAM + the processor register context to it's solid-state memory and voilà, real standby mode. This would do wonders for battery life.

And a dictionary would be lovely, too. But no integrated keyboard, a touchscreen would be much better.

Also, the number one request: FOLDER SUPPORT! Would give up everything for that.

pilotbob · 05-24-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Valloric

I want the next reader to have a true standby mode that actually powers it off (and I'm not talking about a 3 min long boot up).

You just can't have it both ways. You want it to use no power when you are not using it, but you want it to be instant on when you want to use it. I'm not sure that is possible.... even the fastest device needs some startup time.

BOb

Valloric · 05-25-2008, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

You just can't have it both ways. You want it to use no power when you are not using it, but you want it to be instant on when you want to use it. I'm not sure that is possible.... even the fastest device needs some startup time.

BOb

Of course it will need some startup time, but I believe with register context parking, they could push it to under 3 seconds. The biggest slowdown would be RAM loading, but it's not like the reader uses a whole lot of RAM... in fact, how much does it use under normal operation? Anybody?

tidixon · 05-25-2008, 06:41 PM

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zelda_pinwheel · 05-25-2008, 06:43 PM

heh.... ascii wishes... we really are geeks on this forum.

HarryT · 05-26-2008, 03:17 AM

As has been said repeatedly, an A4 device would not be a replacement for the current "pocket-sized" reader; it would be a different device for a different market. I wouldn't want an A4 reader - far too big to carry around.

Valloric · 05-26-2008, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

As has been said repeatedly, an A4 device would not be a replacement for the current "pocket-sized" reader; it would be a different device for a different market. I wouldn't want an A4 reader - far too big to carry around.

I absolutely agree. It would be a completely different device for a completely different audience. The main things Sony needs to focus on and improve are battery life (it's great, but it could be even better) and readability (italic fonts and better contrast).

astra · 05-26-2008, 09:13 AM

Agree

tidixon · 05-27-2008, 12:52 AM

I have good eyes.

I should have been more specific - I would like a higher resolution display capable of displaying an A4-sized document in a readable (albeit tiny) way.

I would then be able to read scanned texts without having to worry about conversion. I am a student and often get assigned scanned pages from magazines and books that I would like to be able to read on my Sony Reader.

I use libprs500 and pdflrf where I can, but some scans are junk. These I print two-pages-per-page, so I am used to reading tiny text.

I agree that an A4-sized reader would be a different device completely.

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05-24-2008, 07:09 PM	#82
Valloric Created Sigil, FlightCrew Posts: 1,982 Karma: 350515 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Kobo Clara HD	Hm... I'm suprised no one mentioned "true" standby as a feature request for the next reader. As astra said, the standby we have is basically a hold button that blanks the screen too. The reader still consumes power. I want the next reader to have a true standby mode that actually powers it off (and I'm not talking about a 3 min long boot up). I'm puzzled why they didn't do this for the current versions... just park everything in RAM + the processor register context to it's solid-state memory and voilà, real standby mode. This would do wonders for battery life. And a dictionary would be lovely, too. But no integrated keyboard, a touchscreen would be much better. Also, the number one request: FOLDER SUPPORT! Would give up everything for that.

05-25-2008, 06:43 PM	#86
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	heh.... ascii wishes... we really are geeks on this forum.

05-26-2008, 03:17 AM	#87
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	As has been said repeatedly, an A4 device would not be a replacement for the current "pocket-sized" reader; it would be a different device for a different market. I wouldn't want an A4 reader - far too big to carry around.

05-26-2008, 09:13 AM	#89
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	Agree

05-27-2008, 12:52 AM	#90
tidixon Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: PRS-505	I have good eyes. I should have been more specific - I would like a higher resolution display capable of displaying an A4-sized document in a readable (albeit tiny) way. I would then be able to read scanned texts without having to worry about conversion. I am a student and often get assigned scanned pages from magazines and books that I would like to be able to read on my Sony Reader. I use libprs500 and pdflrf where I can, but some scans are junk. These I print two-pages-per-page, so I am used to reading tiny text. I agree that an A4-sized reader would be a different device completely.

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