Forum restructuring: Device sections - Page 2

Gudy · 12-17-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

And even if you don't move the V3 forum, you should merge the Bebook forum into it. It is a V3 clone after all.

Seconded. It may very well be the currently most popular of all the rebranded Hanlin V3's, but it is, in essence as well as in the details, nothing but a rebranded V3.

JSWolf · 12-17-2008, 03:23 PM

I agree that all the V3 and clones should have be merged into one forum.

Alexander Turcic · 12-17-2008, 03:36 PM

Alright. How would we name the OEM section? Who is the original producer? Is it Nemoptics/PVI?

Nate the great · 12-17-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Alright. How would we name the OEM section? Who is the original producer? Is it Nemoptics/PVI?

The OEM of the V3/Walkbook/EZReader/Bebook is Jinke.

nrapallo · 12-17-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

that looks good to me, alex. the only suggestion i have is to give the ebookwise a top-level forum of its own, rather than putting it in the "other devices" forum ; it gets a good bit of activity and people are still buying eb1150 regularly and coming here with lots of questions. a developper corner for the eb1150 might be a good idea as well as nick, ashkultz, et al are quite actively working on new tools and fonctionnalities. i don't think it needs a separate "accessories" forum however an accessories prefix would be a good idea as the question of "where to buy the charger outside the US" comes up regularly ! and there is also the question of where to find smartmedia cards.

I'm with her 100%! Those are the points that ran through my head when I heard of your "restructuring". We have great ongoing .imp ebook generation, developers are continually coming out with new tools with .imp support (our own Dev Hub has a main section for the ebookwise devices) and users are still agonizing whether to buy an e-ink device or "get their feet wet" with a lower cost-effective (but not inferior) solution.

Reading ebooks is the goal here and should not be driven by the technology, but rather augmented by it. Just ask all those original Rocket eBook users if they really want/wanted to change their device. I would surmise the answer would be "not if I don't have too".

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

When you mean "stand on its own", I assume you mean having its own parent section. This doesn't make sense to me. eBookwise does already have its own section. Adding it to the parent would imply that there are more eBookwise devices out there, now and in the future. I think that would be inappropriate given that its an abandoned product.

In North America, the eBookwise 1150 is available through commercial channels as well as ebay. I agree that from a manufacturing standpoint it is an "abandoned" unit, but from the point of view of actual ebook users, it's still a commercially viable product with an enormous resource behind it, Fictionwise.

I will support whatever you decide is better for this ebook community, but wanted to throw my "two cents worth" your way.

DaleDe · 12-17-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

There is no doubt that Jinkie will release new devices next year. We already know about the EZ Reader Plus and Pro (V3-like with WiFi and/or touchscreen), and presumably the V9 will finally see the light of day.

So a Jinkie Devices forum makes sense eventually. However, I think it would currently only include Hankin V3 since it isn't clear to me that BeBook should be a separate forum. Presumably it is separate based on volume of threads, but I can't imagine many of us wanting to read just one of BeBook and Hanlin V3.

I think a Jinke forum is the right way to go right now with EZ Reader and BeBook joining Hanlin in that group also with prefixes for the others. The expertise is the same and assistance and discussion are the same. The firmware is basically the same but when it is not the discussion belongs where it can be read by all.

DaleDe · 12-17-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

The OEM of the V3/Walkbook/EZReader/Bebook is Jinke.

and lBook.

Adam B. · 12-17-2008, 07:45 PM

I'm not sure about the iRex section...

Software releases and development for both devices are very different and aren't compatible. I think it could be very confusing if someone doesn't know that...

Alexander Turcic · 12-18-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam B.

I'm not sure about the iRex section...

Software releases and development for both devices are very different and aren't compatible. I think it could be very confusing if someone doesn't know that...

Would thread prefixes help to avoid the potential confusion?

T-bag · 12-18-2008, 02:30 AM

I agree with the classification, but leave Jinke under the other device does not seem appropriate. Since 1999, Jinke began to devote itself to develop and manufacture eReading device. So far Jinke sold more than 500K of the reader device (include OEM /non-EINK product), maybe jinke is the best eReading device seller. My suggestion is classify them as Jinke Devices,

Jinke Devices

* Hanlin V3
* OEM (LBook/Bebook/EZReader/Papyre/Walkbook/Digibook)
* Accessories
* Contents
* Software Releases
* Developer Corner

carandol · 12-18-2008, 06:34 AM

I think the Jinke devices should have their own section too. It should also have (I think) an "also known as..." line on the main Forum page, with a list of all the clones, since when you buy (for instance) a Bebook, there's nothing in the manual or on the web site that tells you it's a Jinke clone, and a casual browser may look at the site quickly, see no reference to their particular V3 clone, and think there's nothing here for them.

beachwanderer · 12-18-2008, 07:15 AM

I do very much agree with T-bag but see candarols point. There should be a way in which a swift glance for bebook etc. leads to the right place - Jinke info.

-Thomas- · 12-18-2008, 07:39 AM

I agree with Adam about the iRex development section: Development for the devices is too different, and the iLiad OS developers will need their own place for discussions etc.

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Originally Posted by Alexander Turcic

Would thread prefixes help to avoid the potential confusion?

Hmm, thread prefixes would only make it hard to find out relevant threads for users of either device. I don't think there will be many overlapping discussions between the two reader's users, especially when it comes to development.

Professor · 12-18-2008, 10:10 AM

I do not think Hanlin eBook should be in the 'other devices'. My eBook is Hanlin V3, some of my friends and colleagues use Hanlin V3 as well. Jinke Hanlin has become a famous brand, so it should be listed independently!

DaleDe · 12-18-2008, 10:23 AM

While it is not specific to the eBook Devices section I would like to see a General eBook forum in the General eBook section. Currently some eBook topics end up in the Lounge or even here in feedback. People just don't know where to post some things and a general catch-all would be useful.

Dale

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,037 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I agree that all the V3 and clones should have be merged into one forum.

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Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,163 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Alright. How would we name the OEM section? Who is the original producer? Is it Nemoptics/PVI?

12-17-2008, 07:45 PM	#23
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	I'm not sure about the iRex section... Software releases and development for both devices are very different and aren't compatible. I think it could be very confusing if someone doesn't know that...

12-18-2008, 02:30 AM	#25
T-bag Member Posts: 21 Karma: 397 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Hanlin V3	I agree with the classification, but leave Jinke under the other device does not seem appropriate. Since 1999, Jinke began to devote itself to develop and manufacture eReading device. So far Jinke sold more than 500K of the reader device (include OEM /non-EINK product), maybe jinke is the best eReading device seller. My suggestion is classify them as Jinke Devices, Jinke Devices * Hanlin V3 * OEM (LBook/Bebook/EZReader/Papyre/Walkbook/Digibook) * Accessories * Contents * Software Releases * Developer Corner

12-18-2008, 06:34 AM	#26
carandol Evangelist Posts: 423 Karma: 2153430 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: BeBook	I think the Jinke devices should have their own section too. It should also have (I think) an "also known as..." line on the main Forum page, with a list of all the clones, since when you buy (for instance) a Bebook, there's nothing in the manual or on the web site that tells you it's a Jinke clone, and a casual browser may look at the site quickly, see no reference to their particular V3 clone, and think there's nothing here for them.

12-18-2008, 07:15 AM	#27
beachwanderer - Posts: 2,602 Karma: 16748808 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: At the Baltic Sea Device: Some	I do very much agree with T-bag but see candarols point. There should be a way in which a swift glance for bebook etc. leads to the right place - Jinke info.

12-18-2008, 10:10 AM	#29
Professor Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2008 Device: Hanlin V3	I do not think Hanlin eBook should be in the 'other devices'. My eBook is Hanlin V3, some of my friends and colleagues use Hanlin V3 as well. Jinke Hanlin has become a famous brand, so it should be listed independently!

12-18-2008, 10:23 AM	#30
DaleDe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,470 Karma: 13095790 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Grass Valley, CA Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7	While it is not specific to the eBook Devices section I would like to see a General eBook forum in the General eBook section. Currently some eBook topics end up in the Lounge or even here in feedback. People just don't know where to post some things and a general catch-all would be useful. Dale