Can not delete specific formats

linusnc · 01-23-2012, 12:53 AM

Ok I download some books in EPUB and have to convert to MOBI so I can add it to my kindle. I go into delete specific format and delete the epub. However when I go into the folder structure I can still see the epub there it says it is deleted but I see it on my computer HD. Any advice? Thanks for looking

HarryT · 01-23-2012, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by linusnc

Ok I download some books in EPUB and have to convert to MOBI so I can add it to my kindle. I go into delete specific format and delete the epub. However when I go into the folder structure I can still see the epub there it says it is deleted but I see it on my computer HD. Any advice? Thanks for looking

It's a bug in the current release. Kovid has said that it'll be fixed in the next build. In the mean time, just delete the files manually.

kiwidude · 01-23-2012, 06:11 AM

Just to clarify HarryT's comment - the user should still be using the Remove menu option to make sure the calibre database is updated. It is then a second step required (if you have the buggy version) to open the folder directly and delete the same book formats you chose from the file system. Not something I would personally "encourage" given the room for error but HarryT is certainly correct in that the combination will act as a workaround.

Another option (after waiting for the next release) is to use the library maintenance function to "check" the library. That will show you the orphaned file formats, and you just tick the checkboxes and click the delete button on that screen.

As an aside to Kovid - some form of multi-select would be very welcome on that screen to allow checking lots of rows at once. I had well over a hundred files that were orphaned due to this bug, and it was a bit painful scrolling and clicking each one...

kovidgoyal · 01-23-2012, 06:18 AM

I think Charles' reasoning with not providing a bulk select was to make sure you went through the items one by one to be relatively sure you knew what you were deleting. Annoying in this case, I agree, but fortunately it is a rare case.

kiwidude · 01-23-2012, 07:13 AM

It already has the items unchecked by default which forces the user to consider them, so it seems a bit overkill to me to nanny all users with a single selection on top of that.

But as I've already done my library I'm not going to argue it further. I shall just nod my head sympathetically as every calibre user who has been actively working with their library over the last week next uses check library

kovidgoyal · 01-23-2012, 07:26 AM

I seriosuly doubt that every calibre user will use the delete specific format function, rather like every calibre user not needing to adjust calibre's author sort algorithms

Instead, I worry about those calibre users who might be affected by this bug and in addition have copied some important files into their calibre library inadvertently at some point in the past. Adding a bulk check option will pretty much guarantee they will use it, and therefore end up deleting those files as well.

kiwidude · 01-23-2012, 07:52 AM

I didn't mean *every* calibre user, don't you misquote me like that - you know what I meant

Was it only remove of a specific format? Was it not remove all except a format as well? I seemed to have far more books/formats than I can recall just from using remove specific format? I use all of the "Remove all formats", "Remove specific format" and "Remove all but specific format" options fairly regularly, but I didn't look at the patch to see exactly which of those was affected.

kovidgoyal · 01-23-2012, 10:50 AM

Basically any remove some formats but not delete the whole book type operation.

HarryT · 01-23-2012, 11:28 AM

Is it only 0.8.36 that it's broken in, or does this affect earlier versions, too.

kovidgoyal · 01-23-2012, 11:44 AM

Only 0.8.36

HarryT · 01-23-2012, 11:45 AM

Thanks - that's good to hear. I've been avoiding upgrading from 0.8.35 because of this. I'll wait for 0.8.37.

linusnc · 01-23-2012, 04:44 PM

Thank you very much for your help everyone I appreciate it

01-23-2012, 12:53 AM	#1
linusnc Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: kindle	Can not delete specific formats Ok I download some books in EPUB and have to convert to MOBI so I can add it to my kindle. I go into delete specific format and delete the epub. However when I go into the folder structure I can still see the epub there it says it is deleted but I see it on my computer HD. Any advice? Thanks for looking

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01-23-2012, 06:11 AM	#3
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,637 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	Just to clarify HarryT's comment - the user should still be using the Remove menu option to make sure the calibre database is updated. It is then a second step required (if you have the buggy version) to open the folder directly and delete the same book formats you chose from the file system. Not something I would personally "encourage" given the room for error but HarryT is certainly correct in that the combination will act as a workaround. Another option (after waiting for the next release) is to use the library maintenance function to "check" the library. That will show you the orphaned file formats, and you just tick the checkboxes and click the delete button on that screen. As an aside to Kovid - some form of multi-select would be very welcome on that screen to allow checking lots of rows at once. I had well over a hundred files that were orphaned due to this bug, and it was a bit painful scrolling and clicking each one...

01-23-2012, 06:18 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I think Charles' reasoning with not providing a bulk select was to make sure you went through the items one by one to be relatively sure you knew what you were deleting. Annoying in this case, I agree, but fortunately it is a rare case.

01-23-2012, 07:13 AM	#5
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,637 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	It already has the items unchecked by default which forces the user to consider them, so it seems a bit overkill to me to nanny all users with a single selection on top of that. But as I've already done my library I'm not going to argue it further. I shall just nod my head sympathetically as every calibre user who has been actively working with their library over the last week next uses check library

01-23-2012, 07:26 AM	#6
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I seriosuly doubt that every calibre user will use the delete specific format function, rather like every calibre user not needing to adjust calibre's author sort algorithms Instead, I worry about those calibre users who might be affected by this bug and in addition have copied some important files into their calibre library inadvertently at some point in the past. Adding a bulk check option will pretty much guarantee they will use it, and therefore end up deleting those files as well.

01-23-2012, 07:52 AM	#7
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,637 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	I didn't mean every calibre user, don't you misquote me like that - you know what I meant Was it only remove of a specific format? Was it not remove all except a format as well? I seemed to have far more books/formats than I can recall just from using remove specific format? I use all of the "Remove all formats", "Remove specific format" and "Remove all but specific format" options fairly regularly, but I didn't look at the patch to see exactly which of those was affected.

01-23-2012, 10:50 AM	#8
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Basically any remove some formats but not delete the whole book type operation.

01-23-2012, 11:28 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Is it only 0.8.36 that it's broken in, or does this affect earlier versions, too.

01-23-2012, 11:44 AM	#10
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Only 0.8.36

01-23-2012, 11:45 AM	#11
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thanks - that's good to hear. I've been avoiding upgrading from 0.8.35 because of this. I'll wait for 0.8.37.

01-23-2012, 04:44 PM	#12
linusnc Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: kindle	Thank you very much for your help everyone I appreciate it