Smart Punctuation v7.38, quick questions

jackie_w · 01-08-2011, 12:17 PM

I was just reading the Changelog for v7.38 and saw
"Smarten punctuation: Convert double dashes to em dashes. Preprocessing: Various tweaks"

I thought double dashes had always been converted. Have I got the wrong end of the stick?

As I thought this was a 3rd-party add-on I didn't realise it was possible to ask for enhancements. If we can, would it be possible to broaden the list of char strings which get translated to the horizontal ellipsis. As far as I understand it's currently just ... (dotdotdot). I have seen many books with . . . (dot space dot space dot), especially TXT scans. If it's do-able I'd be quite happy to raise a ticket.

kovidgoyal · 01-08-2011, 12:22 PM

You'd have to ask ldolse about the dashes, that was his change. Sure you can ask for enhancements to the feature (it is a 3rd party addon, but the addon is open source, so we can make changes to it).

jackie_w · 01-08-2011, 12:26 PM

Thanks, I'll raise the ticket.

ldolse · 01-08-2011, 01:21 PM

It was something I saw that was done during markdown conversion (and liked it) but markdown conversion only applies to txt. I figured the appropriate place to make that sort of change was if the user enabled the smarten_punctuation checkbox.

In a similar vein the same checkin also converts ellipsis which are three dots - '. . .' or '...' - to the ellipsis entity, as another user had complained about ebook renderers wrapping lines in the middle of an ellipsis.

Both would probably make sense in the actual smartypants library, but since I don't maintain that library I didn't stick it there, it's just in Calibre's code. Other tweaks can be done easily, as Kovid noted.

Edit - I didn't read the second half of your request til after I wrote the part about the ellipsis - anyway, a happy coincidence.

jackie_w · 01-08-2011, 02:26 PM

@Idolse,

That's great. Thanks for anticipating my request

. I haven't been able to try v7.38 yet because when I tried to download it was so slow I had to cancel. I'll try later.

kovidgoyal · 01-08-2011, 04:22 PM

You can download it from sourceforge.net if google is slow.

jackie_w · 01-08-2011, 04:25 PM

Thank you, I didn't realise that, my ignorance knows no bounds. It's downloading properly now.

01-08-2011, 12:17 PM	#1
jackie_w Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,212 Karma: 16534894 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo: KA1, ClaraHD, Forma, Libra2, Clara2E. PocketBook: TouchHD3	Smart Punctuation v7.38, quick questions I was just reading the Changelog for v7.38 and saw "Smarten punctuation: Convert double dashes to em dashes. Preprocessing: Various tweaks" I thought double dashes had always been converted. Have I got the wrong end of the stick? As I thought this was a 3rd-party add-on I didn't realise it was possible to ask for enhancements. If we can, would it be possible to broaden the list of char strings which get translated to the horizontal ellipsis. As far as I understand it's currently just ... (dotdotdot). I have seen many books with . . . (dot space dot space dot), especially TXT scans. If it's do-able I'd be quite happy to raise a ticket.

01-08-2011, 01:21 PM	#4
ldolse Wizard Posts: 1,337 Karma: 123455 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Malaysia Device: PRS-650, iPhone	It was something I saw that was done during markdown conversion (and liked it) but markdown conversion only applies to txt. I figured the appropriate place to make that sort of change was if the user enabled the smarten_punctuation checkbox. In a similar vein the same checkin also converts ellipsis which are three dots - '. . .' or '...' - to the ellipsis entity, as another user had complained about ebook renderers wrapping lines in the middle of an ellipsis. Both would probably make sense in the actual smartypants library, but since I don't maintain that library I didn't stick it there, it's just in Calibre's code. Other tweaks can be done easily, as Kovid noted. Edit - I didn't read the second half of your request til after I wrote the part about the ellipsis - anyway, a happy coincidence. Last edited by ldolse; 01-08-2011 at 01:27 PM.

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01-08-2011, 12:22 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,856 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You'd have to ask ldolse about the dashes, that was his change. Sure you can ask for enhancements to the feature (it is a 3rd party addon, but the addon is open source, so we can make changes to it).

01-08-2011, 12:26 PM	#3
jackie_w Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,212 Karma: 16534894 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo: KA1, ClaraHD, Forma, Libra2, Clara2E. PocketBook: TouchHD3	Thanks, I'll raise the ticket.

01-08-2011, 02:26 PM	#5
jackie_w Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,212 Karma: 16534894 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo: KA1, ClaraHD, Forma, Libra2, Clara2E. PocketBook: TouchHD3	@Idolse, That's great. Thanks for anticipating my request . I haven't been able to try v7.38 yet because when I tried to download it was so slow I had to cancel. I'll try later.

01-08-2011, 04:22 PM	#6
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,856 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You can download it from sourceforge.net if google is slow.

01-08-2011, 04:25 PM	#7
jackie_w Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,212 Karma: 16534894 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo: KA1, ClaraHD, Forma, Libra2, Clara2E. PocketBook: TouchHD3	Thank you, I didn't realise that, my ignorance knows no bounds. It's downloading properly now.

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