Classic First impressions - Page 2

kindlekitten · 12-09-2009, 03:46 PM

hey! it's part of the learning experience!

Kolenka · 12-09-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RWood

The Sony LRF format is great for keeping you where you want to be. In a given font size page 145 will always start with the same words. Not so with Mobipocket (or the Amazon Kindle format that is based on Mobipocket.) Given the same font and font size, does the nook maintain consistent page registeration?

The Kindle uses 'location' markers, which will always go to the same text. But you don't get page numbers.

The nook seems to follow the 505's lead and behaves pretty much the same way. The ePub/PDF support via ADE is pretty much identical to the 505 too, which actually makes for a surprisingly consistent experience.

jaxx6166 · 12-09-2009, 08:18 PM

Have you been able to purchase an ePub on B/N and transfer it or read it on your sony yet? Or are they still DRM locked

Kolenka · 12-09-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxx6166

Have you been able to purchase an ePub on B/N and transfer it or read it on your sony yet? Or are they still DRM locked

B&N is sticking with the name and CC# scheme of DRM, and won't be readable on other devices until:

A) they go ePub (newspapers/magazines are, but I don't think all the books are yet),
B) the Adobe Digital Editions SDK update gets out there and Sony pushes out a firmware update to include it.

I will comment that the B&N Newspaper subscriptions seem to be DRM-free, so those should actually work. I can double-check later tonight.

WookieReader · 12-09-2009, 08:46 PM

I went and looked at one today at B&N. I tried the Sony 600 but compared to my PRS-505, it just felt like reading a glossy magazine rather than paper. Nothing wrong with that, just more of a sheen to the surface.

The Nook I was very impressed with. It should do well. Very intuitive in the limited time I spent with it. I agree with others that the Nook and Sony PRS-505 have similar contrast and readability, while the Kindle DX and Sony 600 do not have as much contrast. I really like contrast and 'black-er' letters which just seems easier to me.

jaxx6166 · 12-09-2009, 10:29 PM

Kolenka, that would be great. I'm sure there are other people on the forum that would be interested in that too =)

If their DRM isn't bloated enough to prohibit that and B/N can match the AMZN prices (which I doubt) then I'll have a K2 for sale

JSWolf · 12-09-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hsjwmom

Thanks! I'm about to go ahead with buying a PRS-505, but am hesitating for some reason. I think I need to get over craving nook just because it's new and cool, lol.

The nook may be new, but given how slow it is, it's not cool.

retroreader · 12-09-2009, 11:11 PM

... having wrestled through the pretty complex clear plastic consumer packaging, I'm currently unable to register. I've got three out of four bars, and says "can't connect at this time" ... meanwhile, can't figure out how to use it w/out registering.

... we'll see, but Kindle was WAY easier to use/register ...

dme

retroreader · 12-09-2009, 11:29 PM

Ok, got it registered via wi-fi (a plus) ... finding the screen at the bottom strangely reminiscent of the Kindle 1 experience. Also noticing first book I searched for (Agatha Christie titles were ~$1 more expensive than Amazon.

gabekaplan · 12-09-2009, 11:47 PM

Ok, I pre-ordered the nook because it looked cool and new and shiny, and I'm a guy. Then, I did what I always do when I decide to throw decent amounts of treasure at a shiny object, I researched the doodoo out of it. What I found was that the biggest complaint about the nook was the cost of the ebooks on B&N, especially when compared to the same ebooks on Amazon. So, thought I, I'll just buy the ebooks I want on Amazon (after downloading their free Kindle for PC) and then load them onto my shiny new toy. (Insert chuckles from those far more learned than I, here). Little did I know about DRM protection, and Amazon's stranglehold on all their content.

So, I did more research and I read about mobidedrm, and calibre, and other mind-numbingly boring topics until blood began to dribble out of my left eye. It seems that in order to put the ebook (that I paid for) onto the ereader (that i paid for) I need to do something that is quite possibly illegal. Just doesn't seem right. And why would Amazon be opposed to opening up their ebook market to more people and more profits??

Can anyone out there help me? The conclusion I have come up with thus far, and it is a shaky conclusion at best, is that I need to find a PID for my Kindle for PC and then I should be able to use software to remove the DRM, and then convert it using Calibre into .mobi or .epub which I can then load onto my nook. Does that even sound right?

Kolenka · 12-10-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxx6166

Kolenka, that would be great. I'm sure there are other people on the forum that would be interested in that too =)

If their DRM isn't bloated enough to prohibit that and B/N can match the AMZN prices (which I doubt) then I'll have a K2 for sale

Well, last I heard, B&N and Adobe are really pushing to get this DRM scheme into the SDK (because it is different from what ADE currently uses, and apparently Adobe was convinced it was simple enough to include as an option for sellers and devices).

As for newspapers, the copy of the Washington Post I grabbed to tinker with seems to work just fine with the 505 I already have. I'd practically say that the newspapers seem to be DRM free, which makes sense since 100% of their money comes from day-0 sales.

desertgrandma · 12-10-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gabekaplan

Can anyone out there help me? The conclusion I have come up with thus far, and it is a shaky conclusion at best, is that I need to find a PID for my Kindle for PC and then I should be able to use software to remove the DRM, and then convert it using Calibre into .mobi or .epub which I can then load onto my nook. Does that even sound right?

Kinda. They would need to be stripped, then converted into mobi format, So far, no one has been able to find the PID on the "kindle for pc" app.

Therefore, you won't be able to "liberate" any of your books to use on the nook.

Of course, all of that is illegal. I'm just sayin'........

PS.......Welcome to MobileRead. Stick around. Lots to learn and lots of free books here to download....drm free.

daffy4u · 12-10-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxx6166

If their DRM isn't bloated enough to prohibit that and B/N can match the AMZN prices (which I doubt) then I'll have a K2 for sale

It looks like they're going to price match Amazon but I've already read that you'll have pay sales tax on the books because B&N has physical stores. Since each country in the country may have a different sales tax rate, it would be hard for them to find a price at which to sell the books to keep the total at $9.99 with tax.

12-09-2009, 11:11 PM	#23
retroreader Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Device: kindle, sony 505, nook, iphone	Having a pretty bad out of box experience ... ... having wrestled through the pretty complex clear plastic consumer packaging, I'm currently unable to register. I've got three out of four bars, and says "can't connect at this time" ... meanwhile, can't figure out how to use it w/out registering. ... we'll see, but Kindle was WAY easier to use/register ... dme

12-09-2009, 11:47 PM	#25
gabekaplan Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: nook	how to load ebook purchased for kindle4pc onto nook Ok, I pre-ordered the nook because it looked cool and new and shiny, and I'm a guy. Then, I did what I always do when I decide to throw decent amounts of treasure at a shiny object, I researched the doodoo out of it. What I found was that the biggest complaint about the nook was the cost of the ebooks on B&N, especially when compared to the same ebooks on Amazon. So, thought I, I'll just buy the ebooks I want on Amazon (after downloading their free Kindle for PC) and then load them onto my shiny new toy. (Insert chuckles from those far more learned than I, here). Little did I know about DRM protection, and Amazon's stranglehold on all their content. So, I did more research and I read about mobidedrm, and calibre, and other mind-numbingly boring topics until blood began to dribble out of my left eye. It seems that in order to put the ebook (that I paid for) onto the ereader (that i paid for) I need to do something that is quite possibly illegal. Just doesn't seem right. And why would Amazon be opposed to opening up their ebook market to more people and more profits?? Can anyone out there help me? The conclusion I have come up with thus far, and it is a shaky conclusion at best, is that I need to find a PID for my Kindle for PC and then I should be able to use software to remove the DRM, and then convert it using Calibre into .mobi or .epub which I can then load onto my nook. Does that even sound right?

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12-09-2009, 03:46 PM	#16
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	hey! it's part of the learning experience!

12-09-2009, 08:18 PM	#18
jaxx6166 Wizard Posts: 1,222 Karma: 769316 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eternal summer Device: 350, iPad, PW	Have you been able to purchase an ePub on B/N and transfer it or read it on your sony yet? Or are they still DRM locked

12-09-2009, 08:46 PM	#20
WookieReader Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Weldon Spring, Missouri Device: Sony PRS-505, Iliad 2nd Ed/iPhone	I went and looked at one today at B&N. I tried the Sony 600 but compared to my PRS-505, it just felt like reading a glossy magazine rather than paper. Nothing wrong with that, just more of a sheen to the surface. The Nook I was very impressed with. It should do well. Very intuitive in the limited time I spent with it. I agree with others that the Nook and Sony PRS-505 have similar contrast and readability, while the Kindle DX and Sony 600 do not have as much contrast. I really like contrast and 'black-er' letters which just seems easier to me.

12-09-2009, 10:29 PM	#21
jaxx6166 Wizard Posts: 1,222 Karma: 769316 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eternal summer Device: 350, iPad, PW	Kolenka, that would be great. I'm sure there are other people on the forum that would be interested in that too =) If their DRM isn't bloated enough to prohibit that and B/N can match the AMZN prices (which I doubt) then I'll have a K2 for sale

12-09-2009, 11:29 PM	#24
retroreader Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Device: kindle, sony 505, nook, iphone	Ok, got it registered via wi-fi (a plus) ... finding the screen at the bottom strangely reminiscent of the Kindle 1 experience. Also noticing first book I searched for (Agatha Christie titles were ~$1 more expensive than Amazon.

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