I am trying to become an agent for Jinke - Page 2

JSWolf · 01-25-2008, 08:54 AM

I don't honestly think you'd be able to sell 500 V3s in the USA considering the 505 & Kindle are the biggest competitors and the Wol format is not a strong selling point.

DaleDe · 01-25-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I don't honestly think you'd be able to sell 500 V3s in the USA considering the 505 & Kindle are the biggest competitors and the Wol format is not a strong selling point.

to me it would be a stronger choice with something like FBReader on board. It does read other formats now but not much that is commercially available. Reading eReader files would be wonderful.

Dale

yvanleterrible · 01-25-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I don't honestly think you'd be able to sell 500 V3s in the USA considering the 505 & Kindle are the biggest competitors and the Wol format is not a strong selling point.

Say Jon! What is Wol ?

DaleDe · 01-25-2008, 11:02 AM

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Say Jon! What is Wol ?

Look in the wiki. Wolf is the format used by Hanlin and not available on any other unit. WOL is short for Wolf and is usually the extension. The format can be text or images but most of the tools supplied by Hanlin produce large images. This is what happens if you use the print to Wolf option.

Dale

yvanleterrible · 01-25-2008, 11:06 AM

Thanks Dale.

RWood · 01-25-2008, 11:27 AM

You are right Harry, bank (wire) transfers are not common in the US except between companies and with the Government. Private citizens still think it is magic when their paychecks are "direct deposited" to their accounts.

While the Jinke is an interesting piece of gear, if I was to get another e-ink device at the moment it would be the CyBook because of the multiple format support. The Jinke seems to have a more limited format support than the Sony. Maybe the larger screen will change their marketplace acceptance; but, I doubt that they will be the only player in the larger screen size market.

igorsk · 01-25-2008, 11:41 AM

iScriptum is selling lBook V3 (which is OEM version of Jinke) inside EU and they said they'll have English interface for the shop "ASAP".

NatCh · 01-25-2008, 11:45 AM

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Private citizens still think it is magic when their paychecks are "direct deposited" to their accounts.

There goes my world view crashing to the ground in tiny shards. Again.

DaleDe · 01-25-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by igorsk

iScriptum is selling lBook V3 (which is OEM version of Jinke) inside EU and they said they'll have English interface for the shop "ASAP".

The lBook seems to be the leading edge development for what is going on at Jinke. iScriptum sells that edition I believe. The Hanlin does have a fairly impressive list of formats it supports natively. PDF, TXT, RTF, WOLF, DOC, CHM, FB2, HTML, DJVU, MP3, TIFF, JPG, GIF, BMP, PNG, RAR, ZIP

But, none of these have English commercial eBooks. It should do great as a CBR/CBZ reader I would think but they currently don't accept these as file types. All of the underpinnings are in place.

Dale

JSWolf · 01-25-2008, 11:58 AM

CBR and CBZ are just RAR and ZIP with a bunch of GIF or JPG images inside. So I don't see why that would be a problem as long as you renamed the file extensions.

DaleDe · 01-25-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

CBR and CBZ are just RAR and ZIP with a bunch of GIF or JPG images inside. So I don't see why that would be a problem as long as you renamed the file extensions.

Yes, that was the point I was making. I am not sure how easy the transition between images is using the UI but it is probably ok.

Dale

igorsk · 01-25-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

But, none of these have English commercial eBooks.

There was some talk about adding DRMed Mobi support to lBook/Jinke, but I'm not sure what's the progress on that.

wallcraft · 01-25-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleDe

The Hanlin does have a fairly impressive list of formats it supports natively. PDF, TXT, RTF, WOLF, DOC, CHM, FB2, HTML, DJVU, MP3, TIFF, JPG, GIF, BMP, PNG, RAR, ZIP

But, none of these have English commercial eBooks.

If the FB2 support is good enough, then this would be my choice for DRM-free e-books. This is relatively well supported (e.g. conversion tools etcetera), because of its popularity in Russia. However, I agree that an e-book reader must have DRM support to be viable.

ebookreaders · 01-25-2008, 01:16 PM

At Ebookreaders.nl (site is available both in Dutch and English) we have been looking at the possibilities of importing the V3 for the European market. Same story here, the minimum order qty of 500 pcs is just too much. Maybe after they've added Mobipocket support we'll think it over again. Until then, we sell the Cybook and the iLiad.

We did an extensive review of the V3, though. I think it's a great device and the build quality is ok. It looks very much like the Cybook though, comparing them side-by-side.

Wiebe

recycledelectron · 01-25-2008, 11:15 PM

When they have one that does what the V3 does, plus a touch screen, I'll buy one.

When they have that plus WiFi, I'll ask the university to mandate these for every student in my classes.

Andy

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01-25-2008, 01:16 PM	#29
ebookreaders wdejager Posts: 45 Karma: 110 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Hanlin V3, Cybook Gen3, iLiad 2nd & Book edition, iPhone 3G, DR1000	minimum order qty At Ebookreaders.nl (site is available both in Dutch and English) we have been looking at the possibilities of importing the V3 for the European market. Same story here, the minimum order qty of 500 pcs is just too much. Maybe after they've added Mobipocket support we'll think it over again. Until then, we sell the Cybook and the iLiad. We did an extensive review of the V3, though. I think it's a great device and the build quality is ok. It looks very much like the Cybook though, comparing them side-by-side. Wiebe

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01-25-2008, 08:54 AM	#16
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,841 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I don't honestly think you'd be able to sell 500 V3s in the USA considering the 505 & Kindle are the biggest competitors and the Wol format is not a strong selling point.

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yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Thanks Dale.

01-25-2008, 11:27 AM	#21
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	You are right Harry, bank (wire) transfers are not common in the US except between companies and with the Government. Private citizens still think it is magic when their paychecks are "direct deposited" to their accounts. While the Jinke is an interesting piece of gear, if I was to get another e-ink device at the moment it would be the CyBook because of the multiple format support. The Jinke seems to have a more limited format support than the Sony. Maybe the larger screen will change their marketplace acceptance; but, I doubt that they will be the only player in the larger screen size market.

01-25-2008, 11:41 AM	#22
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	iScriptum is selling lBook V3 (which is OEM version of Jinke) inside EU and they said they'll have English interface for the shop "ASAP".

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,841 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	CBR and CBZ are just RAR and ZIP with a bunch of GIF or JPG images inside. So I don't see why that would be a problem as long as you renamed the file extensions.

01-25-2008, 11:15 PM	#30
recycledelectron Groupie Posts: 152 Karma: 854 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Lifebook T5010	When they have one that does what the V3 does, plus a touch screen, I'll buy one. When they have that plus WiFi, I'll ask the university to mandate these for every student in my classes. Andy

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