Onyx Boox M90 available - Page 10

sammy · 06-03-2011, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booxtor

Unfortunately it happens to my device mostly in normal daylight. Yesterday we had here blue sky and very bright sun light and I have tested my M90 in the direct sun light for a couple of minutes. The problem was disappeared. Back in the room, it appears again. A little bit weird...

would you think it is only a problem with the software?

lm21cbe · 06-03-2011, 08:26 AM

Hello Zetmolm.
This feature works as follow: you open for example 3 files and you don't close any of them. Laterly you may swicht from one to other only with a click. This is similar to a web navigator (ex Firefox) you open in diferents tabs differents url, and latterly you may change between them.
This feature is very important when you use the ereader for technical papers. In this cases normally you are simultaneouslly reading serveral files (books, articles, etc).
My old DR1000 had this feature.

Zetmolm · 06-03-2011, 10:16 AM

@lm21cbe
I see what you mean. As I explained, you can do something similar on the Boox. That is, it requires two clicks instead of one to switch between books. However, because the books need to be re-opened each time, the switch may take longer than you like.

Booxtor · 06-03-2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy

would you think it is only a problem with the software?

No, it is definitely a hardware problem... I hope the guys from Onyx can fix it before they start to sell it.

strellson · 06-03-2011, 02:42 PM

Hello Booxtor.

Does putting "a piece of paper over that sensor" or doing anything similar solve the problem?

Thank you very much for reviewing

brombus · 06-04-2011, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booxtor

No, it is definitely a hardware problem... I hope the guys from Onyx can fix it before they start to sell it.

I agree that it looks like a hardware problem otherwise guys from Onyx would have fixed it before with a right firmware update. They have a big problem here and I am afraid it would be extremely difficult for them to replace the faulty sensor with a new one before starting sales in June.

BTW, Booxtor, could you elaborate on a few things I am interested in:
1) How often is the spontaneous page turns?
2) How long do you read (2-3 hours a day or more?)
3) What firmware version do you have?

catharsis · 06-05-2011, 05:32 PM

Booxtor, what kind of USB port does the device have (miniUSB or microUSB) ? Does it charge off USB?

Booxtor · 06-06-2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catharsis

Booxtor, what kind of USB port does the device have (miniUSB or microUSB) ? Does it charge off USB?

It has miniUSB and you can charge the reader by connecting via USB either to PC or to power adapter..

OphReader · 06-06-2011, 07:54 AM

I'm not sure, that I understand the IR-Sensor Problem correctly. Does it mean that:

a) The device you received has a faulty sensor

b) ALL of the built devices have this faulty sensor

c) The *whole concept* of this sensor does not work, the sensors are otherwise ok.

d)?

Onyx Europe · 06-06-2011, 08:39 AM

We think the IR-sensor is set too sensitive. So when you are in bright direct sunlight the sensor thinks you are using the button. Onyx International is solving this problem right now.

brombus · 06-06-2011, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OphReader

I'm not sure, that I understand the IR-Sensor Problem correctly. Does it mean that:

c) The *whole concept* of this sensor does not work, the sensors are otherwise ok.

I think that the sensors they put in the M90/M91S are very similar to the optical mouse of Samsung Omnia mobiles. But in those mobiles there is an option to adjust the sensitivity of the sensor. Perhaps the next software version will have this option too and solve the problem eventually.

Onyx Europe, I see that you have the M91S in stock now. Does it have the same problem with the sensor as the M90? Can we expect a review in the nearest future?

Onyx Europe · 06-06-2011, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brombus

Onyx Europe, I see that you have the M91S in stock now. Does it have the same problem with the sensor as the M90? Can we expect a review in the nearest future?

Yes we have the M91S in stock, but we decided not to ship, because they have the same problem. Hopefully it is a software problem and can be solved really quick so we can ship them to our customers!

Booxtor · 06-06-2011, 11:59 AM

I am installing the new firmware right now to my M90 and am very curios if the IR sensor problem was solved. Today I have tried to read some text outside. It was cloudy, but it was impossible to read again.. I have put a piece of paper over the sensor - it seems to get through the paper, because the problem was still there.
Handling of DjVUs and PDFs is OK. but:
1. A PDF book from GoogleBooks 20 MB. After giving a command to get to the next(previous) page (via IR Sensor, Capacitive Sensor, Stylus) it takes appx. 8 sec.
to "turn" the page.

2. Annotations - very interesting idea with scribbling directly in the book. It works however very unstable yet. Three freezes in 20 minutes. I didn't reset the device after last freeze and the battery was empty after a couple of hours.

Zooming in PDFs and DjVU is not bad. Generally I liked it. In my next video I will show the options.

Dulin's Books · 06-06-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brombus

I think that the sensors they put in the M90/M91S are very similar to the optical mouse of Samsung Omnia mobiles. But in those mobiles there is an option to adjust the sensitivity of the sensor. Perhaps the next software version will have this option too and solve the problem eventually.

that's correct. its an optical mouse and there are firmware adjustments for all such devices. they dont have to replace the item or ditch it. remember this issue was "discovered" on beta devices which are in the field for just this sort of bug detection.

tarlcab · 06-06-2011, 01:18 PM

If this has all the features of the IREX 1000S and is lighter and faster with better battery life, I'll be excited about it. 1000S is kinda slow and the battery life is not long. That said its really great for viewing and annotating PDF's.

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06-03-2011, 08:26 AM	#137
lm21cbe Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 68 Join Date: May 2011 Device: none	Hello Zetmolm. This feature works as follow: you open for example 3 files and you don't close any of them. Laterly you may swicht from one to other only with a click. This is similar to a web navigator (ex Firefox) you open in diferents tabs differents url, and latterly you may change between them. This feature is very important when you use the ereader for technical papers. In this cases normally you are simultaneouslly reading serveral files (books, articles, etc). My old DR1000 had this feature.

06-03-2011, 10:16 AM	#138
Zetmolm Guru Posts: 612 Karma: 2031728 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: PocketBook Touch (622), PocketBook Touch Lux 2, Pocketbook Touch HD 3	@lm21cbe I see what you mean. As I explained, you can do something similar on the Boox. That is, it requires two clicks instead of one to switch between books. However, because the books need to be re-opened each time, the switch may take longer than you like.

06-03-2011, 02:42 PM	#140
strellson Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: none	Hello Booxtor. Does putting "a piece of paper over that sensor" or doing anything similar solve the problem? Thank you very much for reviewing

06-05-2011, 05:32 PM	#142
catharsis Addict Posts: 206 Karma: 14 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: iRex DR800SG, Onyx Boox M92	Booxtor, what kind of USB port does the device have (miniUSB or microUSB) ? Does it charge off USB?

06-06-2011, 07:54 AM	#144
OphReader Connoisseur Posts: 83 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: 902	I'm not sure, that I understand the IR-Sensor Problem correctly. Does it mean that: a) The device you received has a faulty sensor b) ALL of the built devices have this faulty sensor c) The whole concept of this sensor does not work, the sensors are otherwise ok. d)?

06-06-2011, 08:39 AM	#145
Onyx Europe Distributor Posts: 114 Karma: 66 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Netherlands Device: Onyx Boox M91S	We think the IR-sensor is set too sensitive. So when you are in bright direct sunlight the sensor thinks you are using the button. Onyx International is solving this problem right now.

06-06-2011, 11:59 AM	#148
Booxtor Booxtor Posts: 1,126 Karma: 2305664 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Germany Device: a lot of..	I am installing the new firmware right now to my M90 and am very curios if the IR sensor problem was solved. Today I have tried to read some text outside. It was cloudy, but it was impossible to read again.. I have put a piece of paper over the sensor - it seems to get through the paper, because the problem was still there. Handling of DjVUs and PDFs is OK. but: 1. A PDF book from GoogleBooks 20 MB. After giving a command to get to the next(previous) page (via IR Sensor, Capacitive Sensor, Stylus) it takes appx. 8 sec. to "turn" the page. 2. Annotations - very interesting idea with scribbling directly in the book. It works however very unstable yet. Three freezes in 20 minutes. I didn't reset the device after last freeze and the battery was empty after a couple of hours. Zooming in PDFs and DjVU is not bad. Generally I liked it. In my next video I will show the options.

06-06-2011, 01:18 PM	#150
tarlcab Enthusiast Posts: 28 Karma: 16 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Entourage Pocket Edge x3, Boyue T62, Yotaphone 3, Hisense A6L	If this has all the features of the IREX 1000S and is lighter and faster with better battery life, I'll be excited about it. 1000S is kinda slow and the battery life is not long. That said its really great for viewing and annotating PDF's.

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