Author sort problem or am i missing something...

jeanp319 · 02-04-2013, 11:50 AM

I have some problems understanding how sorting of authors work...

See the picture in attachment.

This example shows an author "Elizabeth Adler" in the letter A, and the metadata looks fine. But i'd like to see it sorted like in the author sort field that i see in the metadata.

Why isn't it working ? How to correct this, what am i missing ?

Thanks for your support

theducks · 02-04-2013, 12:11 PM

your metadata is inconsistent (on the Left)
some of those are LN. FN
This one is Fn Ln and is sorted in the correct place for that.

BTW Note the RED Title sort. you may have the books Language set incorrect (sort rule to use) or it is just wrong

The Quality Check Plugin can help sort and fix the inconsistent part.
Preferences: Tweaks: has various sorting overrides (

take time to review all the tweaks,then form a plan to go with your choice)

DoctorOhh · 02-04-2013, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanp319

This example shows an author "Elizabeth Adler" in the letter A, and the metadata looks fine. But i'd like to see it sorted like in the author sort field that i see in the metadata.

Why isn't it working ? How to correct this, what am i missing ?

I don't know why it isn't working. It works fine for me when I add that book.

Go to Preferences - Tweaks and check the following tweak.

Quote:

# Use author sort in Tag Browser

categories_use_field_for_author_name = 'author_sort'

If you are using author instead of author_sort there is your problem. This would also mean a lot of your books you have in your library view are backwards and need to be corrected.

Good luck.

kovidgoyal · 02-05-2013, 12:12 AM

Right click on Elizabeth Adler in the Tag browser and select Edit sort for Elizabeth Adler. That will allow you to edit how the name is sorted. And if you want the sort value displayed in the Tag Browser use the tweak DoctorOhh pointed out.

jeanp319 · 02-07-2013, 10:32 AM

Wow thanks, never noticed that it was using author instead of author_sort...

Now, another thing that happens frequently, is that the book title and the author need to be swapped. Is there any plugin or tweak that could detect this and automagically rearrange the tags ??? That would be so great !

Let me know ...

JSWolf · 02-07-2013, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanp319

Wow thanks, never noticed that it was using author instead of author_sort...

Now, another thing that happens frequently, is that the book title and the author need to be swapped. Is there any plugin or tweak that could detect this and automagically rearrange the tags ??? That would be so great !

Let me know ...

There is no plugin or tweak to fix for poor metadata.

By the way, where is it you are getting these eBooks with the poor metadata? Publisher eBooks are usually good about that.

DoctorOhh · 02-07-2013, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanp319

Now, another thing that happens frequently, is that the book title and the author need to be swapped. Is there any plugin or tweak that could detect this and automagically rearrange the tags ??? That would be so great !

In the edit metadata window next to the title there is a swap title and author button.

jeanp319 · 02-07-2013, 11:04 AM

I don't know the exact sources... i find most on forums.

Two authors:
Joyce, Brenda
and
Brenda Joyce
are shown separated even if the author_sort field is the same ...

Is there a way to fix that ?

jeanp319 · 02-07-2013, 11:06 AM

Same for:
Karpyshyn,Drew
and
Karpyshyn, Drew

JSWolf · 02-07-2013, 11:17 AM

So you download eBooks that you should be paying for.

That's it, I'm done trying to help. I will not help with problems with eBooks that you have stolen instead of bought.

jeanp319 · 02-07-2013, 11:27 AM

no worries...
thank you anyways

02-04-2013, 11:50 AM	#1
jeanp319 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo and nook	Author sort problem or am i missing something... I have some problems understanding how sorting of authors work... See the picture in attachment. This example shows an author "Elizabeth Adler" in the letter A, and the metadata looks fine. But i'd like to see it sorted like in the author sort field that i see in the metadata. Why isn't it working ? How to correct this, what am i missing ? Thanks for your support Attached Thumbnails

02-07-2013, 11:17 AM	#10
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,894 Karma: 128597114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	So you download eBooks that you should be paying for. That's it, I'm done trying to help. I will not help with problems with eBooks that you have stolen instead of bought. Last edited by JSWolf; 02-07-2013 at 11:19 AM.

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02-04-2013, 12:11 PM	#2
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,779 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	your metadata is inconsistent (on the Left) some of those are LN. FN This one is Fn Ln and is sorted in the correct place for that. BTW Note the RED Title sort. you may have the books Language set incorrect (sort rule to use) or it is just wrong The Quality Check Plugin can help sort and fix the inconsistent part. Preferences: Tweaks: has various sorting overrides ( take time to review all the tweaks,then form a plan to go with your choice)

02-05-2013, 12:12 AM	#4
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,843 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Right click on Elizabeth Adler in the Tag browser and select Edit sort for Elizabeth Adler. That will allow you to edit how the name is sorted. And if you want the sort value displayed in the Tag Browser use the tweak DoctorOhh pointed out.

02-07-2013, 10:32 AM	#5
jeanp319 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo and nook	Wow thanks, never noticed that it was using author instead of author_sort... Now, another thing that happens frequently, is that the book title and the author need to be swapped. Is there any plugin or tweak that could detect this and automagically rearrange the tags ??? That would be so great ! Let me know ...

02-07-2013, 11:04 AM	#8
jeanp319 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo and nook	I don't know the exact sources... i find most on forums. Two authors: Joyce, Brenda and Brenda Joyce are shown separated even if the author_sort field is the same ... Is there a way to fix that ?

02-07-2013, 11:06 AM	#9
jeanp319 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo and nook	Same for: Karpyshyn,Drew and Karpyshyn, Drew

02-07-2013, 11:27 AM	#11
jeanp319 Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: kobo and nook	no worries... thank you anyways