Would you use an eBook Lending Library - Page 4

eddiek · 01-14-2011, 04:15 PM

To start with it will be for Kindle, Nook, Sony, PDFs and ePub. We will add more as the site grows and there becomes more of a demand.

Elfwreck · 01-14-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiek

To start with it will be for Kindle, Nook, Sony, PDFs and ePub. We will add more as the site grows and there becomes more of a demand.

How will it work for Sonys? They can't read Kindle or Nook DRM'd ebooks, and can't use the lending feature.

luv2knit · 01-15-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiek

Guys, I am working on a pretty decent idea. I have the site up and am just finishing it now. What I would really like are some suggestions and/or anyone willing to help out and moderate.

Let me know
Eddie

I would encourage you to check out www.paperbackswap.com to see a regular book site that functions extremely well. it could give you a lot of ideas.

i use this site a ton, at least in my past life prior to having an eReader... now i foresee using it to obtain books for my mom and hubby but not so much me. but it has some great features in how you get started, how you essentially get "1 point" for every book you send someone, and you bank those points and spend them for other books you find...

its such a great idea, and i can see lots of parallels for ebooks that could work. especially helpful are all the book summaries, how it pulls up cover images and also reviews, etc.

best of luck!

Dopedangel · 01-16-2011, 12:03 AM

People complaining about piracy.
From what I gather you don't actually give your ebook to someone. You just allow them to download the book from Amazon so I don't see how this will help piracy in anyway.

Personally I think Amazon and others should come up with some kind group accounts so people in one family or freinds can lend books between themselves to stop people from exploiting this the number of people allowed in a group should be limited.

HarryT · 01-16-2011, 12:21 AM

People in a family can freely share books by having their Kindles registered to the same Amazon account.

DiapDealer · 01-16-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dopedangel

People complaining about piracy.
From what I gather you don't actually give your ebook to someone. You just allow them to download the book from Amazon so I don't see how this will help piracy in anyway.

That would be fine if that is indeed how it works. But the above assumption doesn't jive with this statement:

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Originally Posted by eddiek

To start with it will be for Kindle, Nook, Sony, PDFs and ePub. We will add more as the site grows and there becomes more of a demand.

"Kindle or Nook" via their lending program?... Fine.
"Sony, PDF's and Epub"?? What makes it legal to "lend" any of these ebooks -- if they don't already fall under the Kindle or Nook umbrella?

CWatkinsNash · 01-16-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dopedangel

People complaining about piracy.
From what I gather you don't actually give your ebook to someone. You just allow them to download the book from Amazon so I don't see how this will help piracy in anyway.

Well, they can download the borrowed book from Amazon and then take the measures needed to keep it forever, copy it, etc. The person doing the loaning (or the site facilitating the loan) would never know. People already do this with ebooks from regular libraries.

People using the lending feature among friends and family members wouldn't have this issue so much, but lending libraries like this one and the others popping up are bound to attract people who intend to do just that. Even with a credit system, they still can double their number of ebooks for free.

I wouldn't lend an ebook to a complete stranger any more than I'd lend a paper book to them.

LaurieGator · 01-16-2011, 04:46 PM

In my experience, you need to have the DRM enabled on the book to allow lending. If the book is DRM free (like some of my Indie books or a couple of books I have picked up from Baen) then the lending feature is not recognized...

Booklends · 01-16-2011, 06:35 PM

Haha, glad to see there is so much interest in lending eBooks. We're actually throwing our hat into the ring and building Yet Another EBook Lending Site too

Our site is http://www.booklends.com and we hope to have it ready in the next week or so! Visit the site today to sign up for our mailing list and we will let you know when things are ready!

The Terminator · 01-16-2011, 06:45 PM

I have a kobo but that doesn't have any lending

eddiek · 01-17-2011, 11:05 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions guys. We have just launched our site in Beta! The website is http://ebooklendinglibrary.com

Please let me know what you think, and any suggestions you may have.

Eddie

HarryT · 01-17-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LaurieGator

In my experience, you need to have the DRM enabled on the book to allow lending. If the book is DRM free (like some of my Indie books or a couple of books I have picked up from Baen) then the lending feature is not recognized...

Of course not. What's being said, though, is that there's absolutely nothing to stop someone borrowing a book, stripping its DRM, and then keeping it forever.

DiapDealer · 01-17-2011, 12:16 PM

I take back any concerns I had about this site possibly contributing to piracy. The process of "loaning" an ebook has been over-complicated (and made counter-intuitive) enough to make it unattractive to potential pirates.

Elfwreck · 01-17-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LaurieGator

In my experience, you need to have the DRM enabled on the book to allow lending. If the book is DRM free (like some of my Indie books or a couple of books I have picked up from Baen) then the lending feature is not recognized...

Does the lending feature work on non-DRM'd books from Amazon? I wouldn't expect it to work on sideloaded books, but it should work on anything purchasable through Amazon, whether or not it has DRM.

saoir · 01-17-2011, 01:16 PM

In the last 100 years the Publishing industry has had no other choice but to sit back and endure the Library system. There was little they could do to stop it because once they sold a book it was beyond their control. They also soon realised that having to physically visit a Library repeatedly was a natural barrier to Library use that, combined with some other limitations, restricted Library reading to a bearable level for their commercial interests.

And that is not to deny the value of libraries in promoting reading and hence purchasing.

But let's face it, if Library use had exploded to, say, 75% of the population at some time in the middle of last century ... could the Publishing industry have survived ?

So what about the future ? No physical restrictions. No social stigma. What can be done to create a usage model where the business model does not collapse ? because I really believe and worry about what I said in my post. What is a reader's motivation to pay full price as opposed to borrow ? What happens if 75% of all readers get all of their eBooks from online libraries ?

If everyone starts borrowing how can publishers and editors and writers make money ?

01-14-2011, 04:15 PM	#46
eddiek Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	To start with it will be for Kindle, Nook, Sony, PDFs and ePub. We will add more as the site grows and there becomes more of a demand. Last edited by eddiek; 01-20-2011 at 10:47 AM.

01-17-2011, 11:05 AM	#56
eddiek Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Thanks for all the suggestions guys. We have just launched our site in Beta! The website is http://ebooklendinglibrary.com Please let me know what you think, and any suggestions you may have. Eddie Last edited by eddiek; 01-20-2011 at 10:47 AM.

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Dopedangel Wizard Posts: 1,759 Karma: 30063305 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Device: Boyue	People complaining about piracy. From what I gather you don't actually give your ebook to someone. You just allow them to download the book from Amazon so I don't see how this will help piracy in anyway. Personally I think Amazon and others should come up with some kind group accounts so people in one family or freinds can lend books between themselves to stop people from exploiting this the number of people allowed in a group should be limited.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	People in a family can freely share books by having their Kindles registered to the same Amazon account.

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LaurieGator Crazy Cat Lady Posts: 96 Karma: 13662 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Arizona Device: Kindle 2i, Nook Color (Rooted)	In my experience, you need to have the DRM enabled on the book to allow lending. If the book is DRM free (like some of my Indie books or a couple of books I have picked up from Baen) then the lending feature is not recognized...

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Booklends Making eBook lending easy Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: Kindle	Haha, glad to see there is so much interest in lending eBooks. We're actually throwing our hat into the ring and building Yet Another EBook Lending Site too Our site is http://www.booklends.com and we hope to have it ready in the next week or so! Visit the site today to sign up for our mailing list and we will let you know when things are ready!

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The Terminator Retired Posts: 2,552 Karma: 37638420 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Vancouver Island Canada Device: Kobo Touch, Optimus One (2.3), Nexus 7 (4.2)	I have a kobo but that doesn't have any lending

01-17-2011, 12:16 PM	#58
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,546 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I take back any concerns I had about this site possibly contributing to piracy. The process of "loaning" an ebook has been over-complicated (and made counter-intuitive) enough to make it unattractive to potential pirates.

01-17-2011, 01:16 PM	#60
saoir Groupie Posts: 188 Karma: 2088290 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Device: Kindle Paperwhite	In the last 100 years the Publishing industry has had no other choice but to sit back and endure the Library system. There was little they could do to stop it because once they sold a book it was beyond their control. They also soon realised that having to physically visit a Library repeatedly was a natural barrier to Library use that, combined with some other limitations, restricted Library reading to a bearable level for their commercial interests. And that is not to deny the value of libraries in promoting reading and hence purchasing. But let's face it, if Library use had exploded to, say, 75% of the population at some time in the middle of last century ... could the Publishing industry have survived ? So what about the future ? No physical restrictions. No social stigma. What can be done to create a usage model where the business model does not collapse ? because I really believe and worry about what I said in my post. What is a reader's motivation to pay full price as opposed to borrow ? What happens if 75% of all readers get all of their eBooks from online libraries ? If everyone starts borrowing how can publishers and editors and writers make money ?

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