Would you use an eBook Lending Library - Page 2

eddiek · 01-12-2011, 02:43 PM

Daffy4u, the site isn't completed yet. If you pm me I can provide a link. I also don't believe the admins and mods here would like me spamming a link to my site. I'm not sure about their rules.

HarryT · 01-12-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eddiek

Daffy4u, the site isn't completed yet. If you pm me I can provide a link. I also don't believe the admins and mods here would like me spamming a link to my site. I'm not sure about their rules.

Speaking as a moderator, Eddie, once your site is up and running and you're ready to go public, it's absolutely fine to have a discreet link to it in your signature. That's entirely in accordance with our guidelines.

eddiek · 01-12-2011, 03:21 PM

Thanks for the Information Harry

bgalbrecht · 01-12-2011, 05:23 PM

As someone who has been a member at Books For Nooks for about half a year (and I think it's been in operating since about the time the Nook was released), I'm not sure why several people here keep coming up with a "I think I should create yet another book lending site" just because they think they can write a nicer interface. One of the issues is that these sites need a critical mass. Most people will probably pick a single site , and if they don't see something they want to borrow at that site, they'll just give up. Who wants to enter 50 books at multiple sites and keep the status updated at the rest after loaning from a request at one site?

voracious71 · 01-12-2011, 10:17 PM

Sign me up!

JP36 · 01-12-2011, 11:40 PM

I'd prefer a site that accepted all ereaders capable of permitting book lending over one that limited itself to a particular manufacturer/book seller/store.

I'd also want that site to implement some sort of 'credit' for people who lend more than they borrow and to keep a balance so people don't just borrow all the time and contribute nothing. An alternative might be other ways to 'contribute' such as donations to the site or performing 'volunteer' services like a moderator etc but should'nt be a 'free pass' to just borrow books and share none.

There should be something to protect members from exposing their email address, in the situations where that is how lending works, to anyone capable of viewing the site. Something like requiring that a member have at least one verifiable book to lend etc.

Having said all that I'd add that such a new site would have to offer more than is currently offered by other such sites, a better system of searching is one thing others might be some kind of 'reward' for 'very good' members, ie a monthly book credit at a book store or perhaps allowing 'excellent' lenders to have additional books in their waiting to borrow list/queue or the like.

If the site was a money making one I'd be less inclined to be involved as the process is something that can be done by members themselves. Contributions/donations are fine but I'd expect they'd come later if/when the site/community grows large or popular enough.

That's my take on it anyway, I'm not involved with a lending site right now I think I could only lend books via the kindle for android app if/when I get involved with such a site.

angela99 · 01-13-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JP36

I'd prefer a site that accepted all ereaders capable of permitting book lending over one that limited itself to a particular manufacturer/book seller/store.

I'd also want that site to implement some sort of 'credit' for people who lend more than they borrow and to keep a balance so people don't just borrow all the time and contribute nothing. An alternative might be other ways to 'contribute' such as donations to the site or performing 'volunteer' services like a moderator etc but should'nt be a 'free pass' to just borrow books and share none.

There should be something to protect members from exposing their email address, in the situations where that is how lending works, to anyone capable of viewing the site. Something like requiring that a member have at least one verifiable book to lend etc.

Having said all that I'd add that such a new site would have to offer more than is currently offered by other such sites, a better system of searching is one thing others might be some kind of 'reward' for 'very good' members, ie a monthly book credit at a book store or perhaps allowing 'excellent' lenders to have additional books in their waiting to borrow list/queue or the like.

If the site was a money making one I'd be less inclined to be involved as the process is something that can be done by members themselves. Contributions/donations are fine but I'd expect they'd come later if/when the site/community grows large or popular enough.

That's my take on it anyway, I'm not involved with a lending site right now I think I could only lend books via the kindle for android app if/when I get involved with such a site.

I'd love something like that.

rdfry · 01-13-2011, 12:21 AM

looks like some of the publishers have put the kibosh on Lending.

lene1949 · 01-13-2011, 03:22 AM

So... you buy a book, read it, and then make it available for lending? It would be a slow process as you can only lend to one person at a time... and people might not be interested in your kind of books...

Would you have to remove DRM to make this possible?

HarryT · 01-13-2011, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lene1949

So... you buy a book, read it, and then make it available for lending? It would be a slow process as you can only lend to one person at a time... and people might not be interested in your kind of books...

Would you have to remove DRM to make this possible?

No. Both the nook and the Kindle have the ability to lend a book, one time only, for a period of up to 14 days. While it's on loan, you can't read it yourself. Note that it's not a case of "you can only lend it to one person at a time" but "you can only lend it ONCE." DRM removal is not required; this is a strictly legit thing.

A publisher decides whether or not a particular book can be lent.

JP36 · 01-13-2011, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

No. Both the nook and the Kindle have the ability to lend a book, one time only, for a period of up to 14 days. While it's on loan, you can't read it yourself. Note that it's not a case of "you can only lend it to one person at a time" but "you can only lend it ONCE." DRM removal is not required; this is a strictly legit thing.

A publisher decides whether or not a particular book can be lent.

Oh, well that kind of kills the idea of a 'library' with people loaning out their books then, just a one off swap for the 'lucky' people who manage to get lent a book the one and only time that can ever happen. Here I was thinking it was a kind of cool 'community' where people could share their books w/o wasting money/time shipping them back and forth or in local situations lugging them to some communal location over and over.

To me that makes sites dedicated to lending e-books kind of pointless. I certainly understand the business aspect of not wanting people being able to more easily and freely share books but one loan ever also seems extreme.

BoiseShan · 01-13-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

The lending feature in its current format is so limited I am not sure that joining such a site would be worth it. If I lend books with folks it will be family and friends.

I agree. Until books (Kindle) can be loaned out with fewer restrictions, sorry--not interested.

eddiek · 01-13-2011, 02:46 PM

Guys and Gals, I have a system in place to help the process of lending. We realize that books can only be lent once, so we have a system that rewards those lending books. If anyone would like to see what we have so far, please send me a PM. The site will probably launch sometime next week.

eddiek · 01-13-2011, 06:57 PM

Thanks for your feedback. Actually we do have a credit system in place. It will allow for members to get credits for lending ebooks. If members prefer to lend one ebook and borrow one from the same person that will work too. However the credit system will allow anyone to borrow ebooks whether or not they have something the other party is interested in or not.

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Originally Posted by JP36

I'd prefer a site that accepted all ereaders capable of permitting book lending over one that limited itself to a particular manufacturer/book seller/store.

I'd also want that site to implement some sort of 'credit' for people who lend more than they borrow and to keep a balance so people don't just borrow all the time and contribute nothing. An alternative might be other ways to 'contribute' such as donations to the site or performing 'volunteer' services like a moderator etc but should'nt be a 'free pass' to just borrow books and share none.

There should be something to protect members from exposing their email address, in the situations where that is how lending works, to anyone capable of viewing the site. Something like requiring that a member have at least one verifiable book to lend etc.

Having said all that I'd add that such a new site would have to offer more than is currently offered by other such sites, a better system of searching is one thing others might be some kind of 'reward' for 'very good' members, ie a monthly book credit at a book store or perhaps allowing 'excellent' lenders to have additional books in their waiting to borrow list/queue or the like.

If the site was a money making one I'd be less inclined to be involved as the process is something that can be done by members themselves. Contributions/donations are fine but I'd expect they'd come later if/when the site/community grows large or popular enough.

That's my take on it anyway, I'm not involved with a lending site right now I think I could only lend books via the kindle for android app if/when I get involved with such a site.

Belle2Be · 01-13-2011, 07:01 PM

What about people who strip their DRM? Would they be able to lend the book out more than once as long as it was once at a time?

01-12-2011, 02:43 PM	#16
eddiek Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Daffy4u, the site isn't completed yet. If you pm me I can provide a link. I also don't believe the admins and mods here would like me spamming a link to my site. I'm not sure about their rules. Last edited by eddiek; 01-20-2011 at 10:45 AM.

01-13-2011, 02:46 PM	#28
eddiek Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Guys and Gals, I have a system in place to help the process of lending. We realize that books can only be lent once, so we have a system that rewards those lending books. If anyone would like to see what we have so far, please send me a PM. The site will probably launch sometime next week. Last edited by eddiek; 01-20-2011 at 10:46 AM.

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eddiek Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 254 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Thanks for the Information Harry

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bgalbrecht Wizard Posts: 1,806 Karma: 13399999 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Clara HD, Kindle 4	As someone who has been a member at Books For Nooks for about half a year (and I think it's been in operating since about the time the Nook was released), I'm not sure why several people here keep coming up with a "I think I should create yet another book lending site" just because they think they can write a nicer interface. One of the issues is that these sites need a critical mass. Most people will probably pick a single site , and if they don't see something they want to borrow at that site, they'll just give up. Who wants to enter 50 books at multiple sites and keep the status updated at the rest after loaning from a request at one site?

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01-12-2011, 11:40 PM	#21
JP36 Enthusiast Posts: 48 Karma: 20 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: East Coast of America Device: Ipaq 2200, Pocketbook IQ 701, Sony PRS350	I'd prefer a site that accepted all ereaders capable of permitting book lending over one that limited itself to a particular manufacturer/book seller/store. I'd also want that site to implement some sort of 'credit' for people who lend more than they borrow and to keep a balance so people don't just borrow all the time and contribute nothing. An alternative might be other ways to 'contribute' such as donations to the site or performing 'volunteer' services like a moderator etc but should'nt be a 'free pass' to just borrow books and share none. There should be something to protect members from exposing their email address, in the situations where that is how lending works, to anyone capable of viewing the site. Something like requiring that a member have at least one verifiable book to lend etc. Having said all that I'd add that such a new site would have to offer more than is currently offered by other such sites, a better system of searching is one thing others might be some kind of 'reward' for 'very good' members, ie a monthly book credit at a book store or perhaps allowing 'excellent' lenders to have additional books in their waiting to borrow list/queue or the like. If the site was a money making one I'd be less inclined to be involved as the process is something that can be done by members themselves. Contributions/donations are fine but I'd expect they'd come later if/when the site/community grows large or popular enough. That's my take on it anyway, I'm not involved with a lending site right now I think I could only lend books via the kindle for android app if/when I get involved with such a site.

01-13-2011, 12:21 AM	#23
rdfry loving the books Posts: 374 Karma: 18825402 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: DFW Device: Rooted Nook, Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4, Galaxy Note 5, 2 Fire 7s Note 8	looks like some of the publishers have put the kibosh on Lending.

01-13-2011, 03:22 AM	#24
lene1949 Wizard Posts: 1,952 Karma: 213930 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Middelfart, Denmark Device: Kindle paper white	So... you buy a book, read it, and then make it available for lending? It would be a slow process as you can only lend to one person at a time... and people might not be interested in your kind of books... Would you have to remove DRM to make this possible?

01-13-2011, 07:01 PM	#30
Belle2Be Peace, Love, and Books Posts: 355 Karma: 1242738 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3(3g), NookColor	What about people who strip their DRM? Would they be able to lend the book out more than once as long as it was once at a time?

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