The Nook with Glowlight

[SeaKing]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

I've always meant to ask someone this: How do you know you're not a new fart? How exactly does a connoisseur determine the age?

The "old" term kicks in and shows up when you climb into or out of the truck or the craft or sit down or raise up from the sitting position. Then your knees tell you how old you are. If you don't even think about your knees, you are a youngster.

[Kumabjorn]

The moment for me entering Old Fartdom was when I complained about my children's taste in music (rap) and I realized that i sounded like my mother when she complained about Beatles and Stones.

[MsCG1]

I'm still using (and loving!) my original Nook Classic, but I will upgrade to one of these when it's time. I have burned through about six book lamps in less than two years, and I'm tired of replacing them. They also don't offer the best at night reading experience, but it's something I put up with.
The Nookcolor is fine for reading at night, but honestly, I think I've come to the point where I want my tablet experience and my book reading experience separate.

[J. Strnad]

When people who look the way you think you look start calling you "Sir," you're old.

When you start thinking that today's pop music is all crap, you're an old fart.

[AlexGrama]

One relative of mine dropped her NG on a bricked floor. It split apart.

[MikeB1972]

Originally Posted by Prestidigitweeze

I've always meant to ask someone this: How do you know you're not a new fart? How exactly does a connoisseur determine the age?

When you notice a cop and wonder why he isn't still in school then your officially an old fart

[Kumabjorn]

Originally Posted by MikeB1972

When you notice a cop and wonder why he isn't still in school then your officially an old fart

Or when you know who Ed Sullivan and Walter Cronkite was.

[Prestidigitweeze]

The problem with determining people's age by cultural refs is that we live in an archival era. I have friends in their 20s who quote Lee Van Cleef and Sydney Greenstreet. I myself moon over the likes of Myrna Loy and Edwige Fenech, and quote Preston Sturges ca. the 40s and S.J. Perelman interviews from the the 60s.

It's actually more telling to notice the cultural refs someone misses than the ones they know -- particularly in terms of music and fashion. But even then, you've got stubble-chinned tykes whose first duty in life is to be as artificial as possible. (What the second duty is, I leave to your hoary librarian to divulge.)

[bgalbrecht]

Originally Posted by BeccaPrice

What CU doesn't take into consideration though is the ecosystem. Yeah, the Nook Glow is pretty cool, but B&N has wretched customer service. The Kindles aren't quite as nice, but they don't have sequestered memory, and Amazon CS is amazing.

I really don't get the hatred for the Nook because they pre-allocate part of the memory specifically for books sold by B&N. The Nooks all have SD card slots that can expand the memory up to 32 GB. Microcenter sells 8GB cards for $5, and 16GB cards for $11. None of the eInk Kindles (except for the no-longer-available K1) allow you to store more than 4GB on them, period.

I haven't had to use B&N customer service in over a year, but when I did, I never had problems with them.

[Latinandgreek]

Originally Posted by bgalbrecht

I really don't get the hatred for the Nook because they pre-allocate part of the memory specifically for books sold by B&N. The Nooks all have SD card slots that can expand the memory up to 32 GB. Microcenter sells 8GB cards for $5, and 16GB cards for $11. None of the eInk Kindles (except for the no-longer-available K1) allow you to store more than 4GB on them, period.

I haven't had to use B&N customer service in over a year, but when I did, I never had problems with them.

I don't know about the Nook, but my PRS-505's battery life would be cut in half when I'd use the SD card. I've actually just decided to put some things on my MicroSD yesterday on my T1 to see if it cuts down on the time between my battery charges. Also, I believe that the pre-allocated memory on the Nook for side-loaded books is quite small - 250 mb or so. I may be wrong. For people who side load and like to keep a lot of books on their device that really is a small partition. Perhaps 500mb - 1gig would be acceptable.

[BeccaPrice]

Originally Posted by bgalbrecht

I really don't get the hatred for the Nook because they pre-allocate part of the memory specifically for books sold by B&N. The Nooks all have SD card slots that can expand the memory up to 32 GB. Microcenter sells 8GB cards for $5, and 16GB cards for $11. None of the eInk Kindles (except for the no-longer-available K1) allow you to store more than 4GB on them, period.

I haven't had to use B&N customer service in over a year, but when I did, I never had problems with them.

I don't have a hatred for the Nooks - they look like nice little devices - but I really object to that kind of memory sequestering. It's like I'm paying for something that then they're telling me I can only use the way they want me to use it. I'm allergic to walled gardens, and that's more walled than most.

and sure, $11 or so for an SD card isn't that much - but it's one more thing to buy (and lose) - and they make such a big issue about not having extra costs, like the Kindle does.

I've only had to use B&N customer service once, and it was so abysmal that i swore never again.

[ATimson]

Originally Posted by Latinandgreek

Also, I believe that the pre-allocated memory on the Nook for side-loaded books is quite small - 250 mb or so. I may be wrong. For people who side load and like to keep a lot of books on their device that really is a small partition. Perhaps 500mb - 1gig would be acceptable.

On the Nook Simple Touch it's 250 MB, out of 2 GB total. Does anybody know how big the actual OS is (so we can work back to see how much B&N reserves for its content)?

The Nook Tablet/Color have larger partitions (1-2 GB IIRC).

[BeccaPrice]

Originally Posted by ATimson

The Nook Tablet/Color have larger partitions (1-2 GB IIRC).

larger meaning more space for side-loaded content, or more space for B&N only content?

[geertm]

Originally Posted by ATimson

On the Nook Simple Touch it's 250 MB, out of 2 GB total. Does anybody know how big the actual OS is (so we can work back to see how much B&N reserves for its content)?

The Nook Tablet/Color have larger partitions (1-2 GB IIRC).

Quote from the NST specs page:
"•2GB Holds up to 1,000 books (1GB for content; 750 MB reserved for B&N content".

[ATimson]

Originally Posted by BeccaPrice

larger meaning more space for side-loaded content, or more space for B&N only content?

Well, both - they have 8GB/16GB total, and then have 1GB of sideloaded content available (and you can have it changed at the store now to increase the sideloaded amount).