Any way to open a PDF in ABBYY 9.0 without actually processing the pages?

Ea · 03-06-2010, 08:15 AM

... or just define the area template that must be used for the book before opening and processing?

I would like to avoid processing twice; one when opening the book, second when loading my area template.

roger64 · 03-06-2010, 07:39 PM

I don't know the answer but I'd like to know what's an area template.

I have been puzzled recently by FineReader 9 when processing image PDFs of old books (coming from Internet archives). I was getting awful results because the "reading" (OCR) process divided the surface of the page to be recognized a little at random, whith some times overlapping zones.

So, I extracted 50 pages out of a image PDF book, let it do its dirty work, and then decided to do it again manually: suppressing all the zones, drawing a text wrapper zone around the page. The result was excellent, of course at the price of lot of work. For these 50 pages, "manual" processing speed was bout two pages a minute...

So, you guess why your "area template" looks tempting to me...

roger64 · 03-07-2010, 02:59 AM

Well, I just found the solution in the Fine FineReader manual.

It's called "Modèle de zone" in French and I successfully used it to "read" a document (all pages selected). We select it from menu "zone"

I am now like you, when I open a document (image PDF), he begins to numerize and read it. Up to now, I have no other solution than to accept this behaviour.

Once finished, instead of saving, I just load the area template (file with blk), make sure all the pages of the document are selected, and than order again "read"...

After that, I can save much improved results...

It could have saved me some hours...a few days ago...

Ea · 03-07-2010, 05:52 AM

Glad you figured it out

It's a good way to cut out page headers and page numbers. But now you can see why it would be nice if the document was only read once. BTW, did you kow that you can 'train' the character recognition? It helped me a lot when I had a scan of an old paperback with small print.

03-06-2010, 08:15 AM	#1
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Any way to open a PDF in ABBYY 9.0 without actually processing the pages? ... or just define the area template that must be used for the book before opening and processing? I would like to avoid processing twice; one when opening the book, second when loading my area template.

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03-06-2010, 07:39 PM	#2
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,608 Karma: 3000161 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	I don't know the answer but I'd like to know what's an area template. I have been puzzled recently by FineReader 9 when processing image PDFs of old books (coming from Internet archives). I was getting awful results because the "reading" (OCR) process divided the surface of the page to be recognized a little at random, whith some times overlapping zones. So, I extracted 50 pages out of a image PDF book, let it do its dirty work, and then decided to do it again manually: suppressing all the zones, drawing a text wrapper zone around the page. The result was excellent, of course at the price of lot of work. For these 50 pages, "manual" processing speed was bout two pages a minute... So, you guess why your "area template" looks tempting to me...

03-07-2010, 02:59 AM	#3
roger64 Wizard Posts: 2,608 Karma: 3000161 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Kindle PW3 (wifi)	Well, I just found the solution in the Fine FineReader manual. It's called "Modèle de zone" in French and I successfully used it to "read" a document (all pages selected). We select it from menu "zone" I am now like you, when I open a document (image PDF), he begins to numerize and read it. Up to now, I have no other solution than to accept this behaviour. Once finished, instead of saving, I just load the area template (file with blk), make sure all the pages of the document are selected, and than order again "read"... After that, I can save much improved results... It could have saved me some hours...a few days ago...

03-07-2010, 05:52 AM	#4
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Glad you figured it out It's a good way to cut out page headers and page numbers. But now you can see why it would be nice if the document was only read once. BTW, did you kow that you can 'train' the character recognition? It helped me a lot when I had a scan of an old paperback with small print.

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