10-23-2012, 05:17 PM | #31 |
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10-23-2012, 05:33 PM | #32 |
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I'm talking out of my ass here, but my guess is that such functionality would be dependent on the e-reader software. Dictionary entries are displayed as pop-up balloons in Kindles, for instance, but that has nothing to do with the internal code of the book itself. Unless you could bundle javascript functionality (or something similar) in to a book, I don't see how this would be possible without the explicit support of the e-reader software.
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I can't claim a single bit of the credit for conceiving the concept. In fact, I've found it to be fairly common practice (even in the "commercial" ebooks I purchase) nowadays. I just adopted it. I like it as an ebook creator AND as an ebook reader. |
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Unfortunately, it does not work on the vast majority of readers; it's ePUB3 only. {sigh}. I wish it did, but, them's the breaks, as they say. The link that Toxie is discussing is hither: http://www.pigsgourdsandwikis.com/20...pub-3-and.html Hitch |
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Correct, that is why I said ePUB3. Alas.
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The balloon pop-up would be the perfect solution. But then again ... I'm almost certain we'll end up with 27 different implementations to account for (when coding them) by the time it becomes common-place to support the feature.
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I get that. It's just that today's source documents are also supposed to be "controlled by the standard." And judging by the wide variety of implementations of ePub2's standards in practice ... I don't have a high level of confidence that future retailers/vendors and rendering engine developers are going to do any better consistently interpreting ePub3's "standard" than they did consistently interpreting ePub2's standard (not that the standard shouldn't shoulder a bit of the responsibility due to it's wishy-washy wording, but I see that same ample wiggle-room for interpretation in ePub3's wording as well).
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Finally! I´ve found the code, here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#footnotes
<p> Announcer: Number 16: The <i>hand</i>. <p> Interviewer: Good evening. I have with me in the studio tonight Mr Norman St John Polevaulter, who for the past few years has been contradicting people. Mr Polevaulter, why <em>do</em> you contradict people? <p> Norman: I don't. <sup><a href="#fn1" id="r1">[1]</a></sup> <p> Interviewer: You told me you did! ... <section> <p id="fn1"><a href="#r1">[1]</a> This is, naturally, a lie, but paradoxically if it were true he could not say so without contradicting the interviewer and thus making it false.</p> </section> Are my problems over now, or are they just beginning? I had a mind to put the footnote material IN the text because it seemed so cumbersome to code, but this looks nice. |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you never indicated you were looking for coding examples of how to easily create links to (end|foot)notes.
Sigil won't like the HTML5 <section> tag, however. You'll have to get rid of those if you're trying to stick to ePub2. |
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Sure I can remove <section>. Should it be replaced with something else? And this seems to be an even bigger question than footnotes: Should I stick to ePub2? (The irony of calling me "Connoisseur"....) |
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1) Since readers do not have a 'page foot' support, foot notes can end up at the end of a chapter (does this work if you don't break on chapters?). Endnotes are at the End of the book,right? 1) Conversions will probably be a mess no matter what you choose 1) Readers don't have balloon (help) notes. Inline kind of breaks up the smooth 'read' (note: all the 1's ) what every you do, you lose Why the 'Spec' people have not addressed these kinds of issues by now totally eludes me. We are on the 3rd generation of EPUB fer crin' out loud. Are these people still using Just CRT's and Paper? Because the design does not seem to consider e-ink (screen refresh) and handhelds (orientation and Aspect ratio) in general. |
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11-11-2012, 11:29 AM | #44 |
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A very good question. And the answer to it is "probably"—it becomes "certainly" if you intend to create your ePubs with Sigil... the program this forum is intended to discuss.
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You certainly should stick with epub2 if you want your epubs to be readable on a majority of readers. BTW, no one is a Connoisseur in these matters, we all have to cope with the mess that is the epub "standard" with various "embrace + extend" quirks, and a large amount of proprietary bugs, at least for a while. Not good. |
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