10-27-2012, 07:00 PM | #301 |
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PPI is hardware it has nothing to do with software at all. Resolution is software.
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10-27-2012, 07:06 PM | #302 |
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It is possible that people in this thread simply confuse a rhetorics of innovation/revolution with innovation per se... The former is Apple's domain and when the stretch between promising and delivering gets too wide, as in the iPad Mini's case, people will notice... And the more people notice, the less power any rhetorics has...
and like fjtorres noted: in the end, people will start to find actual use cases for their devices, and these will be much less "refined" than most tech avantgardists would imagine... |
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At any rate, I think we all know what the intent here is when people are discussing simply "resolution" or actual pixel dimensions in terms of these devices (the new Mini and its main competition), even if they don't mention the actual ppi. --Pat |
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Seriously, one can acknowledge innovative elements in an otherwise flawed product. I'm not exactly sure what leebase was referring to as innovative in the mini, but I don't see any reason to assume he was referring to the design decisions that Hans mentioned. Unless I missed a post. Which is very possible. But more to the point, I could not suppress the face-palm reaction to a post saying "You said 'innovative,' and that means 'ahead of the competition' Here, look at the definition..." which clearly says nothing of the sort. ApK Last edited by ApK; 10-27-2012 at 10:08 PM. |
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This word "innovation" (or any other similar word implying something new and better) simply doesn't belong in this conversation. All Apple did was shrink the iPad down in size. Size in and of itself is not innovation unless it genuinely took some sort of technological or engineering feat to achieve that size. In this case, it did not. Battery life could have been maintained despite a smaller battery simply by having a smaller screen which is typically one of the biggest drains on battery life. And, as others have pointed out already, other manufacturers such as Samsung were already getting similar battery life with tablets the same size. So it is nothing new or unique. Forget the semantical slicing and dicing. Look at the iPad Mini objectively and try to say with a straight face that something new and different of a significant nature relative to the marketplace was accomplished here. --Pat |
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It is 163 ppi because that is the resolution of the pre-retina iPhones, which means that already have all the designs and production requirements sorted out and can just restart production. |
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iPhone 4/iPhone 4S: 640x960 @ 3.5" (329.65 ppi) iPhone 5: 640x1136 @ 4" (325.97 ppi) iPad/iPad 2:768x1024 @ 9.7" (131.97 ppi) iPad Mini: 768x1024 @ 7.9" (162.03 ppi) (my guess is that the various screen sizes are rounded to more pleasing figures and that the PPI listed in the marketing materials is based on the actual screen sizes) No. The iPhone has nothing to do with the resolution of the Mini. It's all the iPad/iPad 2's (4:3 & 768x1024 (I'm old-fashioned, when I remember to be :P - horizontal should always go first), same as the Mini) fault. The similarities of the PPIs with the original iPhone/iPhone 3G is just coincidence. |
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The tech specs for the iPhone 3 say: 480-by-320-pixel resolution at 163 ppi The tech specs for the iPad Mini say: 1024x768 resolution at 163 ppi Quote:
You could have a 768x1024 screen at whatever size you want. But a 768x1024 screen at a physical size of 7.85" gives you exactly the same ppi as the iPhone 3. A 7" screen wouldn't have, a 7.5" screen wouldn't have, an 8" screen wouldn't have. That means that the 44 pixel touch target on the iPad Mini will be exactly the same physical size as the touch target on the iPhone. (Which I imagine would be their answer to anyone pointing out Job's comments about small tablets. Anything you could press on the iPhone you could press on the iPad Mini.) This was being predicted before the release: http://www.tuaw.com/2012/10/03/why-a...just-workable/ Last edited by murraypaul; 10-28-2012 at 09:02 AM. |
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I might argue (if I was pressed to argue) that the iPhone 5 does seem to have some innovation in that regard, for example. Quote:
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For my part in this sub-thread, I was just amused by the definition post. However, in the interest of integrating another sub-thread here, I do think the ORIGINAL iPad was innovative in a few ways, mostly involving the whole design+user experience gestalt. There were tablets before...they were geek toys and not all that practical or popular. There were smart phones and media players that were easy to use, but limited in what they could be used for, partially because of the size. Combining the consumer usability, utility, and form factor as the iPad did was innovative, and a hugely successful innovation at that. ApK |
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