Genre for older American Thrillers

book64 · 02-19-2013, 03:32 AM

Trying to sort some of my ebooks into folders
But can't think of the name for older American Thrillers eg John d MacDonald.
Can anyone help?

HarryT · 02-19-2013, 03:37 AM

"Noir", perhaps? That's the only one that springs to mind.

book64 · 02-19-2013, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

"Noir", perhaps? That's the only one that springs to mind.

That was quick lol
Wondered about that but thought it was for movies.

HarryT · 02-19-2013, 03:45 AM

No, it's used for books, too. Typically for the type of detective novel in which the detective is a world-weary, hard-bitten, character, who has to live as much by his fists as by his brains. Raymond Chandler is the architypal "Noir" detective author, but it would be equally appropriate to John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee.

EDIT: Some people use the expression "hard boiled" detective novels for this genre.

book64 · 02-19-2013, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, it's used for books, too. Typically for the type of detective novel in which the detective is a world-weary, hard-bitten, character, who has to live as much by his fists as by his brains. Raymond Chandler is the architypal "Noir" detective author, but it would be equally appropriate to John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee.

EDIT: Some people use the expression "hard boiled" detective novels for this genre.

I see well thanks

Any thoughts on my list so far?
Just getting so many books I need to be able to find them.

patrickt · 02-19-2013, 06:54 AM

For your collections you can have categories that are not universally recognized. I like mystery/detective books written in the 50's through the mid-seventies. There isn't a special name for that so I would make one up.

book64 · 02-19-2013, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrickt

For your collections you can have categories that are not universally recognized. I like mystery/detective books written in the 50's through the mid-seventies. There isn't a special name for that so I would make one up.

Yes am searching for names easy to remember lol

sharphamster · 02-19-2013, 09:54 AM

I go with 'Pulp' for these titles.

Pulp.Gumshoe
Pulp.Copper
Pulp.Heist
Pulp.Noir
Pulp.FemmeFatale

and so forth. Jim Thompson gets his own tag :]

Off topic, but since you like the genre, have you tried any of the books from Hard Case Crime? They have re-published some interesting and out of print titles.

book64 · 02-19-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphamster

I go with 'Pulp' for these titles.

Pulp.Gumshoe
Pulp.Copper
Pulp.Heist
Pulp.Noir
Pulp.FemmeFatale

and so forth. Jim Thompson gets his own tag :]

Off topic, but since you like the genre, have you tried any of the books from Hard Case Crime? They have re-published some interesting and out of print titles.

Sounds good to me

Lots of my ebooks are in Calibre
But the other ones I am trying to just file away as I get them in some sort of order to make it easier when I get round to reading And have forgotten what they are lol

Will look at the website
Have been looking for Dell Shannon Mendoza series But hard to find in ebooks.

Fat Abe · 02-19-2013, 10:44 PM

There is now a large collection of noir short stories named after cities or regions, famous, and otherwise. Manhattan Noir has two editions, there is a Long Island Noir, a Kingston Noir, Moscow Noir, etc. While technically Manhattan is a borough, and Long Island consists of part of NYC and two counties, the idea is to collect stories by authors who have been affiliated with the places either physically or in spirit. Noir is chic, but really it's a state of mind that transcends time. Noir in film is different since it emphasizes shadows, but there are those who would argue that Tod Browning used this device in horror films. There may be nothing new under the sun or moon, but intellectuals like labels. There has always been a dark side to human nature, and those fascinated by the subject no longer need to feel ashamed. Welcome to the dark side, brother.

book64 · 02-21-2013, 11:56 AM

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02-19-2013, 03:32 AM	#1
book64 Love reading Posts: 322 Karma: 1000352 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Samsung 8 mobile. Samsung 8 and 10 Tablets	Genre for older American Thrillers Trying to sort some of my ebooks into folders But can't think of the name for older American Thrillers eg John d MacDonald. Can anyone help?

02-19-2013, 03:45 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, it's used for books, too. Typically for the type of detective novel in which the detective is a world-weary, hard-bitten, character, who has to live as much by his fists as by his brains. Raymond Chandler is the architypal "Noir" detective author, but it would be equally appropriate to John D. MacDonald's Travis McGee. EDIT: Some people use the expression "hard boiled" detective novels for this genre. Last edited by HarryT; 02-19-2013 at 04:24 AM.

02-19-2013, 10:44 PM	#10
Fat Abe Man Who Stares at Books Posts: 1,816 Karma: 10606722 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: 50th State, USA. Also, PA, NY, CA, and elsewhere. Device: All of the Above	There is now a large collection of noir short stories named after cities or regions, famous, and otherwise. Manhattan Noir has two editions, there is a Long Island Noir, a Kingston Noir, Moscow Noir, etc. While technically Manhattan is a borough, and Long Island consists of part of NYC and two counties, the idea is to collect stories by authors who have been affiliated with the places either physically or in spirit. Noir is chic, but really it's a state of mind that transcends time. Noir in film is different since it emphasizes shadows, but there are those who would argue that Tod Browning used this device in horror films. There may be nothing new under the sun or moon, but intellectuals like labels. There has always been a dark side to human nature, and those fascinated by the subject no longer need to feel ashamed. Welcome to the dark side, brother. Last edited by Fat Abe; 02-19-2013 at 10:50 PM.

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02-19-2013, 03:37 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	"Noir", perhaps? That's the only one that springs to mind.

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patrickt Wizard Posts: 1,221 Karma: 8381518 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico Device: Paperwhite 4 X 2	For your collections you can have categories that are not universally recognized. I like mystery/detective books written in the 50's through the mid-seventies. There isn't a special name for that so I would make one up.

02-19-2013, 09:54 AM	#8
sharphamster Anathema Device Posts: 283 Karma: 257456 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: Sony T3/350, Kobo AuraH20/Mini, Axim X50v	I go with 'Pulp' for these titles. Pulp.Gumshoe Pulp.Copper Pulp.Heist Pulp.Noir Pulp.FemmeFatale and so forth. Jim Thompson gets his own tag :] Off topic, but since you like the genre, have you tried any of the books from Hard Case Crime? They have re-published some interesting and out of print titles.

02-21-2013, 11:56 AM	#11
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