Found another DRM vs no DRM picture on the Net - Page 2

mgmueller · 03-14-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

If you have any taste, you would not have that issue with the DVD as you would not be watching that awful movie.

But still, the trilogy did gross more than $ 2bn. More than Amazon will do with Kindle in years. It's a consumer's market...

Moejoe · 03-14-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dumas

Harry,

Please explain how failing to credit the original source may be infringement. Is this a UK thing?

Thanks.

It's not infringement, as the original was posted on imgur through Reddit, which has a policy that the image will be shared thereafter in their TOS. Besides all that, Harry would have to remove his avatar if what he said was true, as he does not own nor has he gained a licence to use the Dalek he shows so prominently, nor has he even attributed the image to anybody as he should really do under fair use. If what he'd said was true then the whole music section of this site would have to be shut down and most of the avatars on here removed.

What's good for the goose, eh, Harry?

ardeegee · 03-14-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Besides all that, Harry would have to remove his avatar if what he said was true, as he does not own nor has he gained a licence to use the Dalek he shows so prominently, nor has he even attributed the image to anybody as he should really do under fair use. If what he'd said was true then the whole music section of this site would have to be shut down and most of the avatars on here removed.

Not so! Harry built that Dalek from scratch, after receiving written consent from The Beeb, Terry Nation, and Raymond Cusick (yes, I had to google for that.)

Hypocrisy is cheap.

igorsk · 03-14-2010, 11:34 AM

Not that I share Harry's viewpoint on many things, but:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=40

HarryT · 03-14-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moejoe

Besides all that, Harry would have to remove his avatar if what he said was true, as he does not own nor has he gained a licence to use the Dalek he shows so prominently

Er, wrong. The Dalek in the photograph has been standing in my living room for the last 20-odd years.

Moejoe · 03-14-2010, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Er, wrong. The Dalek in the photograph has been standing in my living room for the last 20-odd years.

Most people have a TV.

fugazied · 03-14-2010, 06:20 PM

hehe absolutely true.

People are willing to buy all kinds of media as long as it is two things:
- Reasonably priced.
- Easy to get.

So stores like iTunes/Amazon are very successful for mp3 sales. You just add your credit card details once. Click 'buy' and within seconds you are consuming your purchase. DRM and proprietary software gets in the way of that easy purchase - consume flow.

You would expect marketers and consumer analysts to recognise this bleedingly simple truth but they are busy making life harder for consumers and suing naughty consumers (like the RIAA suing dead people, grandmas and kids for thousands).

carlobee · 03-14-2010, 11:49 PM

hahah. this is fun! and so true!

mores · 03-15-2010, 06:45 AM

That second image is not really something most people experience. Most people rarely use other OSs and need to boot windows, and most people don't use online libraries.

Non-skipable FBI, CIA, CDC, ABC and XYZ warnings that keep on showing up, however, are well known

Some DVDs published in Germany and Austria feature don't-steal-this-DVD spot that's actually quite funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdko3MX8MJI
The last sentence means "pirates can be punished with up to 5 years of prison time"

kennyc · 03-15-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

If you post other people's work here please credit the original source. Not doing so may be copyright infringement.

Thanks,

[Moderator]

Sorry came in late and see that the info has been added.

Go Dalaks Go!!

JSWolf · 03-15-2010, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgmueller

But still, the trilogy did gross more than $ 2bn. More than Amazon will do with Kindle in years. It's a consumer's market...

The Matrix was pretty good. But the other two were awful. Waste of money, waste of your life. Let's just say that watching Ernest movies is less painful.

Hey Vern, these Matrix sequels are awful man.

thename · 03-15-2010, 03:48 PM

While the first one's enjoyable and so totally true and I totally get the second. It seems like the title should be more like "piracy's easier than reading the instructions"; why didn't the user install the Mac Overdrive Console?

I know I'd way rather boot a virtual machine than run the native app!

Nakor · 03-15-2010, 04:42 PM

^ ROFL.

Though DRM often has setbacks that you can't get around (without removing it). Stuff like limiting the number of systems you can use a software on (I think it was Bioshock that had this problem before they fixed it... maybe Sims too). When music was still DRM'd a lot of people would lose their entire music collection when changing computers, and all they'd get from the retailers was "yes, that's how it works."

There's less of that now, but to assume DRM's only drawback is a little inconvenience would be a mistake.

tnronin · 03-16-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kali Yuga

*shrug*

I hate to come across as humorless

but my experience is:
• Insert DVD
• Press "menu" to skip the trailers
• Watch movie

And, as a Kindle user and Manybooks patron:
• Click "buy now" on Amazon's website, or download via Manybooks
• Wait 1 minute for the download
• Read

Of all the complaints against DRM, this category of complaint is rather specious.

And given the simplicity of the process, I'm not particularly impressed by someone who is sophisticated enough to make a multi-panel diagram, but can't figure out how to skip the trailers or properly boot their computer.

If this works for you then go for it. I'm not going to be dictated to about which reader to get and where to purchase my reading content. I prefer free choice.

kdf9511 · 03-18-2010, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Er, wrong. The Dalek in the photograph has been standing in my living room for the last 20-odd years.

Some people have all the luck....I would love to have a Dalek in my living room. Right next to the Tardis....

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03-14-2010, 11:34 AM	#19
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Not that I share Harry's viewpoint on many things, but: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=40

03-14-2010, 06:20 PM	#22
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	hehe absolutely true. People are willing to buy all kinds of media as long as it is two things: - Reasonably priced. - Easy to get. So stores like iTunes/Amazon are very successful for mp3 sales. You just add your credit card details once. Click 'buy' and within seconds you are consuming your purchase. DRM and proprietary software gets in the way of that easy purchase - consume flow. You would expect marketers and consumer analysts to recognise this bleedingly simple truth but they are busy making life harder for consumers and suing naughty consumers (like the RIAA suing dead people, grandmas and kids for thousands).

03-14-2010, 11:49 PM	#23
carlobee Fanatic Posts: 535 Karma: 972 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: The new iPad	hahah. this is fun! and so true!

03-15-2010, 06:45 AM	#24
mores Guru Posts: 834 Karma: 102419 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Device: iPhone	That second image is not really something most people experience. Most people rarely use other OSs and need to boot windows, and most people don't use online libraries. Non-skipable FBI, CIA, CDC, ABC and XYZ warnings that keep on showing up, however, are well known Some DVDs published in Germany and Austria feature don't-steal-this-DVD spot that's actually quite funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdko3MX8MJI The last sentence means "pirates can be punished with up to 5 years of prison time"

03-15-2010, 03:48 PM	#27
thename Zealot Posts: 106 Karma: 396 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: Sony PRS-650, Sony PRS-700, Kindle 2	While the first one's enjoyable and so totally true and I totally get the second. It seems like the title should be more like "piracy's easier than reading the instructions"; why didn't the user install the Mac Overdrive Console? I know I'd way rather boot a virtual machine than run the native app!

03-15-2010, 04:42 PM	#28
Nakor Addict Posts: 214 Karma: 511602 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: BC, Canada Device: Aluratek Libre	^ ROFL. Though DRM often has setbacks that you can't get around (without removing it). Stuff like limiting the number of systems you can use a software on (I think it was Bioshock that had this problem before they fixed it... maybe Sims too). When music was still DRM'd a lot of people would lose their entire music collection when changing computers, and all they'd get from the retailers was "yes, that's how it works." There's less of that now, but to assume DRM's only drawback is a little inconvenience would be a mistake.

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