Register Guidelines E-Books Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Formats > ePub

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-17-2009, 04:38 AM   #1
Toxaris
Wizard
Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Toxaris's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,520
Karma: 121692313
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Heemskerk, NL
Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura
tools for epub creation

I have tried the various tools available for epub createn. Neither is what I really am looking for.
Sigil looks the most promising. Hower, there are a few quirks I don't like. Perhaps I will post a message in the forum for that. Major quirks are no embedded font option and the CSS handling. I understand the fact that there is some internal CSS in the HTML which is exported into a CSS upon exporting, but I would like to attach my own CSS to it.
With eCub I really like the flexibility of the TOC handling. Editing is not so nice though.

Editing and creating the XHTML files is not that cumbersome. I found that what takes the most time, is creating the content.opf and the toc.ncx. For compiling the ebook I have created a simple batch script which outputs the ePub. Does anyone know of a simple tool that just looks in de subdirectory and creates the content.opf and toc.ncx? I understand that some hand work is required later in the toc.ncx for sequence purposes.
Toxaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 05:46 AM   #2
GeoffC
Chocolate Grasshopper ...
GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
GeoffC's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,600
Karma: 20821184
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scotland
Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW
Quote:
Does anyone know of a simple tool that just looks in de subdirectory and creates the content.opf and toc.ncx?
....what and miss out some of the "fun" !!!

Seriously, though, no - though it may be possible with a DOS batch routine. (sorry showing me age) !!
GeoffC is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 11-17-2009, 09:45 AM   #3
Valloric
Created Sigil, FlightCrew
Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Valloric's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,982
Karma: 350515
Join Date: Feb 2008
Device: Kobo Clara HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
Sigil looks the most promising. Hower, there are a few quirks I don't like. Perhaps I will post a message in the forum for that.
Please do. I keep telling people that I can only fix bugs people report and that I myself have encountered. Other people account for 99% of all bug reports, since I am but one person.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
Major quirks are no embedded font option and the CSS handling. I understand the fact that there is some internal CSS in the HTML which is exported into a CSS upon exporting, but I would like to attach my own CSS to it.
No embedded fonts, yes... it's annoying. But as I've noted several times, it's hinging on a bug in the Qt Framework that I can't fix. Qt 4.6 will be out by the end of the year and should have it working. As soon as it's out, I'll start working on a version with font embedding support.

The CSS problems are more extensive, and it's the reason why Sigil will be substantially redesigned in v0.2.0. But what you are asking for, attaching new CSS styles... that's already possible in Sigil. It has been for a long time. To add new CSS, just switch to Code View and paste your custom style rules in an already present (or completely new) style tag. Your CSS will be exported just fine.
Valloric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
Toxaris
Wizard
Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Toxaris's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,520
Karma: 121692313
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Heemskerk, NL
Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura
Please, do not take offense at my words Valloric. Your tool is wonderful, there are just some things I don't like. No bugs found though. I read your response regarding Qt in another topic and that is something you just have to live with, right?

The adding of the CSS I found out earlier, it works ok. It would be nice to have a drop down box to select the formating of a paragraph or selection based on the added CSS. That was actually what I meant. Not necessary, but nice.

Although there are some good things to say about having one big file to edit with a kind of virtual page/chapter breaks, I find that if the file is becoming big separate chapter xhtml files is quicker and easier to edit. However, for smaller files your method is better. Oh well, I guess there is no one ideal way to handle every situation.

I just installed Sigil again. Let me just give it another go. I had some problems with copying text, but I read somewhere in the forum that more people had that and that importing should help.

Any idea when the beta for v2 will arrive? Probably not before february, right?

Thanks for you're reply and for the tool!
Toxaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 01:25 PM   #5
Toxaris
Wizard
Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Toxaris's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,520
Karma: 121692313
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Heemskerk, NL
Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffC View Post
....what and miss out some of the "fun" !!!

Seriously, though, no - though it may be possible with a DOS batch routine. (sorry showing me age) !!
No prob! The tool/script I created to create the ePub from a directory without manually adding everything to the zip is also done with a DOS batch.

I started to work on it with Delphi (wanted to do some more stuff of course...), but gave up upon quite quickly due to a serious lack of time. Twins are fun, but very time consuming. Hardly have time to read left.
Toxaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 11-17-2009, 01:47 PM   #6
delphidb96
Wizard
delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.delphidb96 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 2,999
Karma: 300001
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
I have tried the various tools available for epub createn. Neither is what I really am looking for.
Sigil looks the most promising. Hower, there are a few quirks I don't like. Perhaps I will post a message in the forum for that. Major quirks are no embedded font option and the CSS handling. I understand the fact that there is some internal CSS in the HTML which is exported into a CSS upon exporting, but I would like to attach my own CSS to it.
With eCub I really like the flexibility of the TOC handling. Editing is not so nice though.

Editing and creating the XHTML files is not that cumbersome. I found that what takes the most time, is creating the content.opf and the toc.ncx. For compiling the ebook I have created a simple batch script which outputs the ePub. Does anyone know of a simple tool that just looks in de subdirectory and creates the content.opf and toc.ncx? I understand that some hand work is required later in the toc.ncx for sequence purposes.
Have you tried the Atlantis word processor? It is an RTF/DOC wp which has an ePub output capability. It's cheap (still $35 for registration, I think) and it is the BEST lightweight, full-featured, NOT M$ WORD, word processor for Windows out there. Granted, some Win word processors are cheaper and some manage to have more features, but you really should check it out.

(Can you tell I'm hooked on Atlantis? It's my primary novel creation tool and has been since 2002.)

Derek
delphidb96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2009, 04:41 PM   #7
Valloric
Created Sigil, FlightCrew
Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Valloric's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,982
Karma: 350515
Join Date: Feb 2008
Device: Kobo Clara HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
Please, do not take offense at my words Valloric.
No offense taken. I'm objective enough to notice the limitations of my own application. Hell, I'm frustrated with them myself. What I am even more frustrated with is knowing exactly how to fix them, just not having enough time...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
It would be nice to have a drop down box to select the formating of a paragraph or selection based on the added CSS. That was actually what I meant. Not necessary, but nice.
I completely agree. There's already an (accepted) issue for this on the tracker. Please do star it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
Although there are some good things to say about having one big file to edit with a kind of virtual page/chapter breaks, I find that if the file is becoming big separate chapter xhtml files is quicker and easier to edit. However, for smaller files your method is better. Oh well, I guess there is no one ideal way to handle every situation.
v0.2.0 will switch from displaying one single large flow, to displaying the contents of each XHTML file separately. It's the whole point of the redesign. I've heard the arguments and I've agreed with them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxaris View Post
Any idea when the beta for v2 will arrive? Probably not before february, right?
Hopefully before that.
Valloric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 04:20 AM   #8
GeoffC
Chocolate Grasshopper ...
GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
GeoffC's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,600
Karma: 20821184
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scotland
Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valloric View Post
v0.2.0 will switch from displaying one single large flow, to displaying the contents of each XHTML file separately. It's the whole point of the redesign. I've heard the arguments and I've agreed with them.
Oh so looking forward ..... separate CSS file also ?
GeoffC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 07:50 AM   #9
Valloric
Created Sigil, FlightCrew
Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Valloric ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Valloric's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,982
Karma: 350515
Join Date: Feb 2008
Device: Kobo Clara HD
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffC View Post
Oh so looking forward ..... separate CSS file also ?
If the loaded epub has separate CSS documents, then those will show up as separate files in Sigil too, yes. I plan on having a kind of "book browser" pane which would list all the files in the epub: XHTML files, CSS, XPGT, images etc. You would click on one and it would open in the main view area.
Valloric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 10:00 AM   #10
GeoffC
Chocolate Grasshopper ...
GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.GeoffC ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
GeoffC's Avatar
 
Posts: 27,600
Karma: 20821184
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Scotland
Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valloric View Post
If the loaded epub has separate CSS documents, then those will show up as separate files in Sigil too, yes. I plan on having a kind of "book browser" pane which would list all the files in the epub: XHTML files, CSS, XPGT, images etc. You would click on one and it would open in the main view area.

oh ... drools in anticipation .....
GeoffC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 01:52 PM   #11
Toxaris
Wizard
Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Toxaris's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,520
Karma: 121692313
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Heemskerk, NL
Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura
Sigil v2 sounds very very promising. Now lets hope Nokia makes a bugfree Qt 4.6...
Toxaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2009, 04:05 PM   #12
DaleDe
Grand Sorcerer
DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.DaleDe ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
DaleDe's Avatar
 
Posts: 11,470
Karma: 13095790
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Grass Valley, CA
Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7
Quote:
Does anyone know of a simple tool that just looks in de subdirectory and creates the content.opf and toc.ncx?
Calibre will do this if you just zip it up first. It has the advantage of handling images in the zip file as well and html files.
DaleDe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2009, 03:09 PM   #13
Toxaris
Wizard
Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Toxaris ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Toxaris's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,520
Karma: 121692313
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Heemskerk, NL
Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura
Just create a zip and then move it to Calibre? Will it create an ePub from it then? Cool, never thought about trying that.
Toxaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2009, 12:15 AM   #14
ChrisJakarta
Junior Member
ChrisJakarta began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 7
Karma: 10
Join Date: Nov 2009
Device: Centro, Galaxy S
I may be missing something, but it seems to me that the free eCub will do what you want, no? What I don't think it will do is add Lookups within each 'chapter'.

Chris
ChrisJakarta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2010, 01:07 AM   #15
aarcane
Member
aarcane began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 23
Karma: 10
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: iphone/stanza
callibre destroys your custom CSS stylesheet and adds significant number of classes and extra tags to the xhtml you just spent hours preparing if you use the .zip option. I just had it happen.
aarcane is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ePub creation tools : what's missing ? wishlist / dialogue zelda_pinwheel ePub 106 03-28-2023 05:23 PM
Atlantis Word Processor - ePub creation tool awp ePub 408 01-07-2021 07:13 AM
creation tools for Mac? nathanb Workshop 1 09-11-2009 10:33 PM
epub creation tools jbenny ePub 20 03-13-2009 12:30 PM
ePub Creation Utility KoopaOne ePub 13 04-30-2008 10:38 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:22 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.