08-08-2010, 10:37 PM | #46 |
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The kindle will do fine for several years to come. Who knows after that. The kindle has dropped by almost 2/3rd's in price. eInk has it's own virtues independent of price as well.
However, just as silly as the "kindle will die" articles, are the "eInk is for real dedicated readers" rubbish that's spouted by so many on this forum. Sure, if you like eInk, great. But that's an area of _preference_ not objective fact. Sure, for reading in direct sunlight it certainly rules but that's such a SMALL percentage of most people's reading. The results are in on the iPad already. Those who have one overwhelmingly find it a nice reading experience. Some prefer it to eInk, some still like their eInk readers better. Only a very tiny portion of folks actually dislike the iPad reading experience. And there are those tiny amount of folks that don't like eInk screens. Sure, sizable majority of customers buying the iPad do not have reading as their primary use case. Everyone who buys a kindle intends to use it for reading. But that's nothing surprising since it ONLY is useful for reading. The iPad does indeed have it's own set of use cases where it clearly is superior. You can buy from all the major stores via the iPad. Not so with the kindle, nook, or Sony. It has a color screen. There is no delay or blinking going from page to page. There is a variety of reading apps to choose from that all have more functionality than any of the readers. Comics, magazines -- there is a clear superiority for the iPad. If you want to include the web for it's reading aspects, the iPad rules there as well. While the iPad can't hold a candle to any eInk reader in the full sun, it does just fine in the shade. And for more of us like reading in the shade to baking in the sun. Indoors, the backlit screen is often far superior -- no book light needed. You know the iPad apps will get better and better -- but the kindle pretty much needs to be upgraded to the new model to get any better. I'm not saying the iPad _IS_ better, but that that there are points in favor of each. Depending on one's own needs and preferences, one device or the other will be the optimal choice. However, beyond reading, the iPad is a highly desirable device for lots of other reasons, in ADDITION to being an excellent reading device. That's why it's going to sell over 10 million this year, and over 15 million the next. Then thrown in the 10's of millions of Android tablets that are going to sell next year as well. The multi-function tablets are indeed going to eclipse the dedicated readers as "the main market" for ebooks. But there is nothing on the horizon that's going to do away with dedicated eInk readers for at least the next few years. Lee |
08-09-2010, 04:58 AM | #47 | |
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So having sworn I'd never buy another e-ink reader, I'll probably pick up a WiFi-only Kindle when they're available, just for use where the screen makes sense. The price-drop helps; a hundred quid may not exactly be loose change, but it's not expensive either, and having all your Kindle books available and synched across all the devices has considerable appeal. Actually, I wish Amazon would go one step further and produce a WiFi-only Kindle with no keyboard - I can buy books via the Kindle App on a host of other, more responsive devices; all I'd want from the keyboardless-Kindle is a 'sync now' option in a menu somewhere (maybe not even that) and a way of managing which books in my Amazon 'library' are synced. If this enabled Amazon to reduce the price further still, then so much the better for eBook readers everywhere. So yes, dragging myself back OT, I'd say the NYT Kindle obit was a little previous. Cheers, Pete |
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08-09-2010, 10:27 AM | #48 |
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I'd certainly make the Kindle a favorite to last longer than the NYT.
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08-10-2010, 06:30 PM | #49 |
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08-11-2010, 06:21 PM | #50 | |
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Well, it's not -- when the purpose of the device is e-reading. The iPad weighs more, has a puny battery life, is more easily damaged, and costs four times or more as much. Further more, the Kindle platform is device agnostic allowing the end-user to access his/her library on a Windows PC, on a Mac, on a Blackberry, on an iPad, on an Android device, on two different classes of Kindle ... and sync the reading experience, and share the content, across all of them. Plus Amazon provides the most robust commercial content library out there and the best opportunity for content providers to generate income ... which encourages even more content. Finally, Amazon has books and reading in its DNA; Apple does not. The iPad can become a hugely roaring success without selling a single ebook; not so Kindles. And that, ultimately, is why we can expect Amazon to stay focussed on providing a better reading experience, across the ebook eco-system, today, tomorrow, and on the journey toward the 10th and 20th generation Kindle. |
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08-11-2010, 06:47 PM | #51 | |
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Ten years ago - no iphone, no ipad, no ipod, no Kindle. The Rocketbook was two years old. Ten years from now all those devices could be as obsolete as the VHS player. Who knows - we could be reading - and computing - using holographic projections by then. |
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08-11-2010, 06:53 PM | #52 | ||
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Walmart has 'em, called Straight Talk, a subsidiary of Tracfone. I haven't tried them myself, but I've seen them. Quote:
Silly, the ingredients of Coke are listed on every can. That whole 'secret formula' stuff is just marketing lore. As to the Amazon vs. Apple thing - I don't think the iPad is a Kindle-killer, per se, but I do expect that down the road there will be multi-use devices that are better for reading than the current crop of devices. I'm afraid that if they're not Amazon-branded devices, then Amazon will just choose to pull the plug on their ebook business. They did once before. Amazon may be the 800 lb. gorilla right now, but as technology changes, that is not guaranteed to continue. But then, prediction is easy - predicting correctly is hard. |
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The tone of your note certainly sounds like another opinion
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08-11-2010, 08:35 PM | #54 |
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08-11-2010, 11:36 PM | #56 |
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You missed my first sentence, even though you quoted it. "Well, it's not [the iPad being better] -- when the purpose of the device is e-reading."
I then elaborated why the Kindle, and the Amazon Kindle platform, provides a better reading experience. I supplied facts and a reasoned argument, not merely "another opinion". |
08-11-2010, 11:51 PM | #57 |
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Are kittens next?
I didn't want to start another thread, 'cause there's just no shortage whatsoever of this stuff and one gets, well, kind of tired, but now the newspaper of record has the iPad killing off not just the independents, but the big-box bookstores, too:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/bu...e&ref=business |
08-12-2010, 06:01 AM | #58 | |
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I went to look here at the stats. Q1 2010 is $91M, about $30M per month. Jan-May 2010 is $147.7M, about $30M per month. So, according to these stats, the iPad had approximately nil impact on sales over those two months. Clearly, you can't draw a curve with two points (I usually use one ), but I don't see any evidence from their cited source that that iPad was driving sales at all. |
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I think one thing nook might still not be doing is profit-sharing ebooks bought while at B&N locations. That would be a shame. Glad Google Editions figured out a way to reach out to a similar pool of resources though. |
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