08-09-2009, 09:53 AM | #1 |
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What does everyone have against EPUB?
Reading though the posts on this forum, there seems to be a definite bias against the EPUB format (at least on the hanlin). While there does seem to be some limitations (can't choose a system font or rotate content), the EPUB format is the only one I have been able to get to work with a navigable bible.
In order to have a usable bible on this device, you need to have a multi level TOC. The flat no nav bible that came with it was really a waste of space. Just try looking up something in Revelations or Malachi... Using calibre, the only format that I could output that had a working multi level TOC was the EPUB format. Not only could I not get the fb2 format to do this, the resulting book crashed the reader pretty consistently. Same for the mobi format. Now this could just be that I'm clueless about how to properly use calibre or those other formats, so feel free to educate me. And speaking of calibre, it would be really nice if the latest version (0.6.5) would allow me to embed a font without having to hack it in later. It took me a while to get my Armenian translation of the bible to display with the Armenian character set instead of a bunch of ?s. |
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08-09-2009, 12:13 PM | #3 |
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Note that the ePub format does not support font embedding. You can include a font in the ePub package, but that it is a completely different thing to font embedding, such as is supported by PDF or LRF.
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08-09-2009, 01:15 PM | #4 | |
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08-09-2009, 03:49 PM | #5 |
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Ah, I can see that. That is also why I don't plan on buying anything with DRM. I like to actually get what I pay for.
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08-09-2009, 03:51 PM | #6 |
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Hmm... I think I might need you to explain the difference. I just created an EPUB of the Bible in Armenian and "embedded" the font I needed to display it. Or so I thought.
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08-09-2009, 04:04 PM | #7 | |
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If there is a format which has a strong contingent against it for ebooks, I would think it's PDF. Also, as you know *all* Mobipocket files can have DRM removed so, those files are never useless (unlike Topaz and LRX). |
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08-09-2009, 04:19 PM | #8 | |
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EPUB is not so much a "format," as a way of packaging HTML files with a bit of metadata that says "this is an ePub file." You can include fonts in the package, but they're not embedded in the HTML files. Instead, the metadata says "use the font font at <location> when displaying these files." By comparison, PDF embeds the font into the PDF--it's packed up into the file. (I'm told some coders can un-extract it, but it's not a simple matter of unzipping. And fonts in PDFs can be partially embedded--so only the characters actually used in that PDF are included.) The big difference: Many fonts, including free fonts, are free for use but not distribution. Embedding it in a PDF file is "use." Putting it into the EPUB zip package is "distribution," and not legal to do without permission or payment. Setting fonts of your choice for your own ePub reading is fine; setting them in an ePub to share may require permission. |
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08-09-2009, 04:24 PM | #9 | |
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Thanks for the explanation. |
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08-10-2009, 03:35 AM | #10 | |
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Also, I've been using mobipocket for a long, long, long time now. I'm really used to that application and everything will be compared to it (and so far, all other readers I've used, just don't support what I want them to support) |
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08-10-2009, 04:00 AM | #11 |
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I like epub as a format and I've used it for a while now with FBReader as my format of choice.
What I often don't like is the implementation of epub readers on various devices, including my Hanlin. Previously it treated epubs like non-reflowable PDFs which was just silly. Now with the new firmware they reflow it but only in font sizes either insanely small or as large as my head. This is why I'll stick with OpenInkpot and continue to strip DRM if I have to. |
08-10-2009, 05:34 AM | #12 |
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I don't have anything against epub, but with the reader devices I've had, and the books I buy, and in general the routines I have, epub just haven't worked out so well for me - or rather, other options have worked out better and were easier to deal with.
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You should try the full-install version found here: http://users.openinkpot.org/~lunohod/20090508/ |
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