[GUI Plugin] Book Sync **Deprecated** - Page 6

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 08:22 AM

What happens when you go to customise? What does the content of your Book Sync.json file look like? You will find that in your plugins folder as per the comment I made to you on the reading list thread.

kenr276 · 06-05-2011, 08:48 AM

I see the same as Screenshot_2_Configuration.png on page 1 but Devices field is empty. The contents of Book Sync.json file is
{
"BookSync": {
"activeDevice": null,
"viewShortcut": "",
"addToListShortcut": "",
"syncShortcut": ""
},
"Devices": {}
}

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 08:52 AM

Right, so effectively you have no devices configured. So you have to set one up, as per the first post, connect your device, click the add button, and then you will be able to add to that list.

That config file is the same as for a first time user. You sound like you had used this plugin previously - I dont know what happened to your previous config file but certainly the above shows no signs of the plugin having been used previously.

kenr276 · 06-05-2011, 09:06 AM

I have used it before and the devices section was not included in the Customize Plugin Dialog as it is now. I have connected the kindle and configured it, will I now be able to add to the Sync List when the Kindle is not connected like I used to?

itimpi · 06-05-2011, 09:15 AM

Yes.

It sounds as if you have never used a version of the Book Sync plugin that has been upgraded for multi-device support. Once you have plugged in a device and used the Customize option for that device then you can add items to that devices sync list regardless of whether it is plugged in.

One big advantage of the updated plugin is that can now maintain separate lists for each device you own, and also separate lists for each card on a device.

KiwiDude: I wonder an "Add to All Sync Lists" option on the Books Sync menu might be a good idea once multiple devices have been configured? At the moment if you want a book on multiple lists you have to do each one separately.

kenr276 · 06-05-2011, 09:28 AM

Thanks itimpi that is what I believe to have happened.

kiwidude maybe you could add "remove from list" as I just added a book by mistake.

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itimpi

It sounds as if you have never used a version of the Book Sync plugin that has been upgraded for multi-device support. Once you have plugged in a device and used the Customize option for that device then you can add items to that devices sync list regardless of whether it is plugged in.

@itimpi - an excellent point I had quite forgotten about, of course that would explain. I am so accustomed to expecting users to always be up to date with their plugins I forget sometimes the older version behaviour, sigh.

@kenr276 - I know you posted on the plugin updater thread so you have the latest version of that now. It will tell you when new plugin versions are available. If you look back on this thread you will see the posts related to when this feature was released and the discussion around it.

Quote:

KiwiDude: I wonder an "Add to All Sync Lists" option on the Books Sync menu might be a good idea once multiple devices have been configured? At the moment if you want a book on multiple lists you have to do each one separately.

I can look into that. I would presume a remove from all lists would also be required. I also want to add to the "View" logic in a similar fashion to reading lists in that if you remove a book from the list while viewing it that it refreshes the search so you can immediately see the effect.

kenr276 · 06-05-2011, 09:37 AM

I've been reading a lot and haven't updated my plugins regularly.

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenr276

I've been reading a lot and haven't updated my plugins regularly.

What??? Actually reading books rather than continually dabbling with Calibre? Clearly not a hard-core Calibre user, disgraceful...

Ahhh, the good old days when I used to read books...

theducks · 06-05-2011, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwidude

What??? Actually reading books rather than continually dabbling with Calibre? Clearly not a hard-core Calibre user, disgraceful...

Ahhh, the good old days when I used to read books...

You just answered a question that had been nagging at me.: "When do these guys find time to READ BOOKS?"

I lose track of how many I have read because with an e-reader I read from any number of titles depending on my mood. When I hit "The End", I open another book

Sometimes I even check whats going on at MR

kovidgoyal · 06-05-2011, 10:42 AM

Ever since I started working on calibre my book reading rate has gone down from about 150 a year to about 100. calibre is making me dumber!

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 10:45 AM

@theducks - earlier this year I had the luxury of doing that for a short time while I was away on holiday, it was brilliant to just roll from one book to the next on my Kindle and I pretty much averaged a book a day.

Since I got back I have been looking at the backlog of hundreds of paperback books in my bookshelves and trying to work through those before I let myself go back to my Kindle. Despite the fact that I actually enjoy reading them on my Kindle more and find it much more convenient, be it lazing in the sun, holding one handed on the tube or in remembering my place when I fall asleep! I just feel guilty about not reading these shiny spanky new books sitting there.

And sometimes I end up doing both - for instance a week or two ago I wanted to start reading the Tawny Man Trilogy by Robin Hobb, having read the Assassins trilogy years ago (both of which I own in paperback and now ebooks too). I read the first chapter of the paperback and then decided I wanted to re-read the original trilogy to refresh my memory of the characters. Rather than dig through my boxes of "read" books that are stored away I just raced through the Kindle versions. I switched back to the paperbacks for the Taweny trilogy to assuage the guilt of not just continuing on with the Kindle.

It has got me wondering about the remainder of my bookshelf now though. Do I continue to work through the paper versions, when I also own them electronically? My expenditure on ebooks as it was on paperbacks is substantial. I am one of those people who likes to have "all" the books written by an author I like. And there are others on my shelf where I bought just the first in a (big) series, waiting to see if I would like it before committing to the rest, which I now own complete in ebooks. There are books by my favourite authors which I haven't read for years, and the temptation to just re-read an entire catalog for an author where I no longer recall which I have read previously.

If there was an easy way to just get rid of all my paperbacks I would. A bit like the hundreds of DVDs and CDs all boxed up lining the hallway - if someone could just come collect them all and take it all out of sight and mind it would be a far less cluttered flat now I have everything digitally. Selling them individually is more effort than it is worth.

So yes, I absolutely LOVE to read. I just end up reading far later at night than I used to... And less time reading technical books since I am banging my head with plguins and Python instead. I agree with Kovid - Calibre is making me dumber too

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 11:30 AM

Changes in this release:

Add options to remove from lists (forgot about when removed the dialog in 1.3.5)
Add menu options to add to all lists and remove from all lists
When removing from a list and currently viewing, refresh the search to update the view

nynaevelan · 06-05-2011, 01:10 PM

Hi Kiwidude:

A question for you, I currently use BS to create lists to backup my books to folder based on where I purchased the books. But these folders are not something I connect to as often as I connect to my kindle. So I was wondering if there is a way within the plugin or within Calibre to tell which lists have books in it that need to be synced? Other than Amazon, where I buy most of my books, I would like to be able to quickly see which lists need to be synced without having to view each individual list.

Nyn

kiwidude · 06-05-2011, 01:23 PM

@nyn - I agree it would be useful to quickly see the counts. I guess the problem is how best to do this without making everything look "messy".

For instance I could put the count of items in a list after the name in the menu like:
"View Test Folder sync list (0)"

Any better suggestions?

06-05-2011, 09:15 AM	#80
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,552 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	Yes. It sounds as if you have never used a version of the Book Sync plugin that has been upgraded for multi-device support. Once you have plugged in a device and used the Customize option for that device then you can add items to that devices sync list regardless of whether it is plugged in. One big advantage of the updated plugin is that can now maintain separate lists for each device you own, and also separate lists for each card on a device. KiwiDude: I wonder an "Add to All Sync Lists" option on the Books Sync menu might be a good idea once multiple devices have been configured? At the moment if you want a book on multiple lists you have to do each one separately. Last edited by itimpi; 06-05-2011 at 09:20 AM.

06-05-2011, 11:30 AM	#88
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	v1.3.6 Released Changes in this release: Add options to remove from lists (forgot about when removed the dialog in 1.3.5) Add menu options to add to all lists and remove from all lists When removing from a list and currently viewing, refresh the search to update the view Last edited by kiwidude; 06-05-2011 at 11:45 AM. Reason: Typo

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06-05-2011, 08:22 AM	#76
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	What happens when you go to customise? What does the content of your Book Sync.json file look like? You will find that in your plugins folder as per the comment I made to you on the reading list thread.

06-05-2011, 08:48 AM	#77
kenr276 Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	I see the same as Screenshot_2_Configuration.png on page 1 but Devices field is empty. The contents of Book Sync.json file is { "BookSync": { "activeDevice": null, "viewShortcut": "", "addToListShortcut": "", "syncShortcut": "" }, "Devices": {} }

06-05-2011, 08:52 AM	#78
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	Right, so effectively you have no devices configured. So you have to set one up, as per the first post, connect your device, click the add button, and then you will be able to add to that list. That config file is the same as for a first time user. You sound like you had used this plugin previously - I dont know what happened to your previous config file but certainly the above shows no signs of the plugin having been used previously.

06-05-2011, 09:06 AM	#79
kenr276 Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	I have used it before and the devices section was not included in the Customize Plugin Dialog as it is now. I have connected the kindle and configured it, will I now be able to add to the Sync List when the Kindle is not connected like I used to?

06-05-2011, 09:28 AM	#81
kenr276 Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	Thanks itimpi that is what I believe to have happened. kiwidude maybe you could add "remove from list" as I just added a book by mistake.

06-05-2011, 09:37 AM	#83
kenr276 Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	I've been reading a lot and haven't updated my plugins regularly.

06-05-2011, 10:42 AM	#86
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,850 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Ever since I started working on calibre my book reading rate has gone down from about 150 a year to about 100. calibre is making me dumber!

06-05-2011, 10:45 AM	#87
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	@theducks - earlier this year I had the luxury of doing that for a short time while I was away on holiday, it was brilliant to just roll from one book to the next on my Kindle and I pretty much averaged a book a day. Since I got back I have been looking at the backlog of hundreds of paperback books in my bookshelves and trying to work through those before I let myself go back to my Kindle. Despite the fact that I actually enjoy reading them on my Kindle more and find it much more convenient, be it lazing in the sun, holding one handed on the tube or in remembering my place when I fall asleep! I just feel guilty about not reading these shiny spanky new books sitting there. And sometimes I end up doing both - for instance a week or two ago I wanted to start reading the Tawny Man Trilogy by Robin Hobb, having read the Assassins trilogy years ago (both of which I own in paperback and now ebooks too). I read the first chapter of the paperback and then decided I wanted to re-read the original trilogy to refresh my memory of the characters. Rather than dig through my boxes of "read" books that are stored away I just raced through the Kindle versions. I switched back to the paperbacks for the Taweny trilogy to assuage the guilt of not just continuing on with the Kindle. It has got me wondering about the remainder of my bookshelf now though. Do I continue to work through the paper versions, when I also own them electronically? My expenditure on ebooks as it was on paperbacks is substantial. I am one of those people who likes to have "all" the books written by an author I like. And there are others on my shelf where I bought just the first in a (big) series, waiting to see if I would like it before committing to the rest, which I now own complete in ebooks. There are books by my favourite authors which I haven't read for years, and the temptation to just re-read an entire catalog for an author where I no longer recall which I have read previously. If there was an easy way to just get rid of all my paperbacks I would. A bit like the hundreds of DVDs and CDs all boxed up lining the hallway - if someone could just come collect them all and take it all out of sight and mind it would be a far less cluttered flat now I have everything digitally. Selling them individually is more effort than it is worth. So yes, I absolutely LOVE to read. I just end up reading far later at night than I used to... And less time reading technical books since I am banging my head with plguins and Python instead. I agree with Kovid - Calibre is making me dumber too

06-05-2011, 01:10 PM	#89
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	Hi Kiwidude: A question for you, I currently use BS to create lists to backup my books to folder based on where I purchased the books. But these folders are not something I connect to as often as I connect to my kindle. So I was wondering if there is a way within the plugin or within Calibre to tell which lists have books in it that need to be synced? Other than Amazon, where I buy most of my books, I would like to be able to quickly see which lists need to be synced without having to view each individual list. Nyn

06-05-2011, 01:23 PM	#90
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,636 Karma: 2162064 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	@nyn - I agree it would be useful to quickly see the counts. I guess the problem is how best to do this without making everything look "messy". For instance I could put the count of items in a list after the name in the menu like: "View Test Folder sync list (0)" Any better suggestions?