Do these look like pirate copies to you?

mr ploppy · 09-19-2012, 06:10 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Skinhead-ebook/dp/B009B9X508

There's quite a few of his other books on there too. They all have the original NEL covers with the NEL logo airbrushed out, there's no copyright/publisher information, and there has been no news anywhere that these were going to be re-released in any form.

Skinhead Times were the last publisher (mid-90s), they have been releasing some of their non-fiction titles on Kindle but said a while ago that James Moffatt had no surviving family so they wouldn't be able to re-release his Richard Allen books.

BookCat · 10-13-2012, 10:56 PM

I can't remember who the OP was, but there was a thread on MR a few months ago regarding opinions of a cover which was not unlike the one in the link. I think the OP was a respected MR peep.

CWatkinsNash · 10-13-2012, 11:33 PM

Lol! It was Mr poppy himself that you're thinking of. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...=180406&page=2

BookCat · 10-14-2012, 12:06 AM

Silly me

mr ploppy · 10-14-2012, 08:59 AM

My skinhead book is in the also boughts for all the Richard Allen ones. You couldn't wish for better product placement, so I hope they're not all pirate copies about to get yanked.

crich70 · 10-25-2012, 10:27 PM

These days how can you tell? I mean you can get a copy of a PD book, Moby Dick, for example from Gutenberg and with Sigil and Calibre you can create a working TOC (or fix one if some work needs doing on it) and then search the web for a good cover for it. And of course a book isn't always PD when it's found on the web. There was the problem with Orwell's book of "1984" a while back as well.

BookCat · 10-26-2012, 05:53 AM

Please tell. I hadn't heard of a problem with 1984. Did someone try to put their own name on it?

mr ploppy · 10-26-2012, 06:54 AM

Someone put 1984 an Amazon without having the rights to do so. Amazon deleted it from everyone's Kindle when they found out.

mr ploppy · 10-26-2012, 06:57 AM

BTW, if the Richard Allen books were going to be re-released in any form it would have been big news among the circles I'm part of. They definitely wouldn't be able to use the original 1970s covers because Skinhead Times couldn't get clearance for them for their reprints.

09-19-2012, 06:10 PM	#1
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	Do these look like pirate copies to you? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Skinhead-ebook/dp/B009B9X508 There's quite a few of his other books on there too. They all have the original NEL covers with the NEL logo airbrushed out, there's no copyright/publisher information, and there has been no news anywhere that these were going to be re-released in any form. Skinhead Times were the last publisher (mid-90s), they have been releasing some of their non-fiction titles on Kindle but said a while ago that James Moffatt had no surviving family so they wouldn't be able to re-release his Richard Allen books.

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10-13-2012, 10:56 PM	#2
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	I can't remember who the OP was, but there was a thread on MR a few months ago regarding opinions of a cover which was not unlike the one in the link. I think the OP was a respected MR peep.

10-13-2012, 11:33 PM	#3
CWatkinsNash IOC Chief Archivist Posts: 3,950 Karma: 53868218 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fruitland Park, FL, USA Device: Meebook M7, Paperwhite 2021, Fire HD 8+, Fire HD 10+, Lenovo Tab P12	Lol! It was Mr poppy himself that you're thinking of. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...=180406&page=2

10-14-2012, 12:06 AM	#4
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	Silly me

10-14-2012, 08:59 AM	#5
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	My skinhead book is in the also boughts for all the Richard Allen ones. You couldn't wish for better product placement, so I hope they're not all pirate copies about to get yanked.

10-25-2012, 10:27 PM	#6
crich70 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,305 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for Pc (netbook)	These days how can you tell? I mean you can get a copy of a PD book, Moby Dick, for example from Gutenberg and with Sigil and Calibre you can create a working TOC (or fix one if some work needs doing on it) and then search the web for a good cover for it. And of course a book isn't always PD when it's found on the web. There was the problem with Orwell's book of "1984" a while back as well.

10-26-2012, 05:53 AM	#7
BookCat C L J Posts: 2,912 Karma: 21115458 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Birmingham UK Device: Sony e-reader 505, Kindle PW2, Kindle PW3, Kobo Libra2	Please tell. I hadn't heard of a problem with 1984. Did someone try to put their own name on it?

10-26-2012, 06:54 AM	#8
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	Someone put 1984 an Amazon without having the rights to do so. Amazon deleted it from everyone's Kindle when they found out.

10-26-2012, 06:57 AM	#9
mr ploppy Feral Underclass Posts: 3,622 Karma: 26821535 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire, tha noz Device: 2nd hand paperback	BTW, if the Richard Allen books were going to be re-released in any form it would have been big news among the circles I'm part of. They definitely wouldn't be able to use the original 1970s covers because Skinhead Times couldn't get clearance for them for their reprints.

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