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Then you're into the murky waters of postmodern relativist inter-subjectivity (Quality only being in the Eye of the Beholder); versus Quiller-Couch or Robert Pirsig's position that Quality is an objectively perceivable phenomenon, in literature as in Life. Oh, forget it....pass me THE CHEETOS! (Not that I know what a Cheeto is, being Scottish, I am imagining some savoury potato chip snack?) |
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It has nothing to do with video games. It has to do with the writing. The story may be good. But it's the writing. It's just not something a lot of people can get into. Shakespeare is like that. The writing is too much of a chore to plow through (for example)
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But what about modern classics? They are just as much a classic now as the old classics. The problem with classics as a category is that there is no actual definition that fits ever instance of a classic.
What definition of classic would fit for Alexander Dumas, William Shakespeare, J.R.R. Tolkien, Issac Asimov, & Douglas Adams? |
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Well like potato chips, Cheetos are a snack food. Think artificially flavored, artificially colored, globules of fat and salt that look much like fat orange worms.
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Issac Asimov & Douglas Adams no, not yet and if ever for selected works. |
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I didn't see it until recently.
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these matters have been discussed a lot before, I don't think we'll settle it this time either. Still:
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OTOH, you can hardly find much better English poetry writing than in his sonnets, which are truthfully top-notch and make much good use of the language as art. |
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Yes, stupid bugger should have written in a more modern style.
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That's a great way to say it. Classic is a poor label as it doesn't actually have a proper definition. You can define some, but not all and when you define the ones you could not define, the ones you defined are no longer defined.
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I agree with you in principle, because from now on it means that the expression "greatest football team of all time" means Geelong and only Geelong. Perhaps we could come to some arrangement where we divide all of the world's adjectives 50/50, so that I get to define half of them, and you the other half. |
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Give me a definition of what makes Anna Karenina a classic. Does this definition fit with say Fahrenheit 451 or Lord of the Rings?
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