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10-09-2012, 08:01 PM | #32 |
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The idea that it's OK to take something that isn't yours and not compensate whoever it belongs it is just that, yes.
par·a·site/ˈparəˌsīt/ Noun: 1.An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense. 2.derogatory. A person who habitually relies on or exploits others and gives nothing in return. |
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par·a·site/ˈparəˌsīt/ Noun: 1.An organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense. 2.derogatory. A person who habitually relies on or exploits others and gives nothing in return. |
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10-10-2012, 12:58 AM | #35 |
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Do you believe that prior agreements matter, Giggleton?
A writer who lives under a government which deems all property to be theft might not entertain expectations of ownership, and so might agree to the condition you wish to impose (if only by your stating that non-ownership is the natural course of the flow of information -- you're still imposing that decision). But what about a writer whose decision to create a work of fiction was predicated on the established condition (in that society, under that government) that the reader must pay for their copy of that work? The writer has been deceived if the work is then treated as free. If, in a capitalist society, a peasant toiling in the field must be paid by the person who benefits from their work, then why should a writer not depend on the same agreement? The courts are full of unpaid workers and deadbeat employers. Last edited by Prestidigitweeze; 10-10-2012 at 01:37 AM. |
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As for his being trustworthy and/or truthful: I'd rather not associate someone's abstract beliefs with inherent strength of character or the lack of it. Anti-Semitism is an example of how wrong that supposition can go. His credo might seem to you to be an excuse for his own unethical conduct elsewhere, but to assume it is truly such an excuse is to claim access to his unstated motives and intentions -- and that can't be verified. |
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However much one disagrees with the ideas of communal property and piracy, someone else's belief in or defense of those ideas doesn't make that person inherently dishonest. Diap's on firmer ground calling Giggleton delusional (though I'm not thrilled about the ad populum) because at least Diap's joking about the plausibility of his opponent's arguments and beliefs. Last edited by Prestidigitweeze; 10-10-2012 at 02:56 AM. |
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10-10-2012, 04:38 AM | #41 |
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No. People can be other things than libertariarans or being people believing in a religious way in fundamental rights. For example as the people that have written the laws in most countries since each law system have restriction in what you are allowed to do with things. And laws usually do not specify any concept of belong and what it means.
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He openly advocates agreeing to a contract with no intention of living up to the agreement. To normal people, that's the definition of dishonesty. If you're using the word differently than everyone else, it's literally impossible to hold a coherent discussion with you.
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In fact, I'm increasingly convinced he's not delusional, so much as a deliberate troll, whose sole purpose is to provoke people. The only real mystery is why the mods have put up with him as long as they have, since he hijacks every thread he can with his whining about having to pay for stuff he wants, and has even started a thread to mull over the details of a web site that, if he actually built it, would likely constitution criminal infringement. |
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That is the most riduculous thing you've said so far, and given how ridiculous most of what you say has been ,that's a real accomplishment. You're becoming increasingly incoherent, too. I have only a vague idea what you're trying to say. I suspect you do, as well.
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